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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. One way that Tran finds ways to carve out his place is to read, not just to improve his vocabulary, but so he can have the same cultural references as the typical white guy, using Clifton Fadiman’s The Lifetime Reading Plan as a guide. 

At one point in the story he references The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne and how Hester agrees to the social contract of being labelled as an adulterer with the scarlet A on all of her clothing. He transfers this piece of literature to the experiences he had in the second grade where one peer relentlessly referred to him as a “gook”. Despite not knowing what this meant, he handled it as a great insult, punching the other student in the face, therefore creating a social contract that he was, in fact, a “gook”, “I could have ignored it  or allowed my ignorance to shield myself, but that very ignorance would have further isolated me, and ultimately dehumanized me…But if I allowed myself to be harmed by words, I was showing them that I belonged at least by virtue of understanding their language. And all I wanted was to belong.” (Tran 56). 

Based on this, and your own text, how impactful is language in how immigrants are assimilating? What are other types of social contracts Americans hold immigrants to? Are these helpful or harmful?


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Neuva already knew English and common American things before coming to New York . She just had to get new clothes when she came to New York because she only had beach clothes on shorts , tank top and sandals. “ You better take her shopping Darrio . she looks like she just walked off the beach at the Boca Chica “ 

 

In my book Flowers in the Sky by Lynn Johseph Neuva was caught with a guy and her mother sent her to New York with her brother because her mother wanted a better life for . her mother didn't want rude and awful guys with her daughter.  

 

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Where did Neuva live before?  And why was she already familiar with English?

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In my book Out of Nowhere by Maria Padian, Tom Bouchard is a colored boy who is in highschool. Just like any highschool kid he plays sports and hangs out with his friends. He lives in lewiston maine which has a lot of native somali people who are in his school and all around him. He meets a boy named Saeed who is a Somali boy who plays soccer with him. He isn't very good at speaking english. When he doesn't know what to sign for the papers to be able to play soccer Tom helps him and his family to figure it out and even uses his information for some of it. Tom and his friend make a bad choice and decide to vandalise a highschool monument so Tom has to do community service. When doing so he meets a young Somali boy named Abdi who doesn't know how to read and write but he can speak decent english. At this point Tom is working with theres from out of the country to help them work their way around their new environment.

When it comes to my book the Somali boys are both having struggles with language when moving to the slates. Both of them have had a hard time fitting in. for example when Saeed was trying to read the forms to sign up for soccer. Also when Tom is teaching Abdi to read he is having a problem with that which is keeping him back in school. “‘Abdi’s been having a hard time in third grade.’ Mayla said quietly. ‘His spoken English is amazing when you consider he’s only been in this country for six months. But he barely reads. He’s still learning his letters… he is getting so left behind’”(Padian 50). Other types of social contracts that Americans hold on immigrants would be stuff like knowing a lot of the slang. Also about doing basic things to us like going to the doctors or driving to work. I think some of these can be harmful because if you expect a lot about people it can be hard for them to get through it and they might feel stressed if you push it to much.

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Have you ever been to a foreign country and felt out of place because you didn't know all the rules?  I remember feeling super disoriented in New Zealand because they drove on the other side of the road.  It must be hard to adapt to new rules, slang, etc.

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Out of Nowhere by Maria Padian, is about Tom Bouchard is a high school athlete from Lewiston Maine. He ends up meeting a Somali Kid named Saeed who isn't very good with speaking or writing English who he plays soccer with. because of having to adapt to a new country and different norms there are moments where the Somali kids are looked down upon such as when they take awhile to get ready for practice. one way that language affects how Somali kids are treated in the book is when things like reading and comprehending English are required for participation. one example of this is when Saeed couldn't read or understand the permission slip. "I slowed down, pronouncing each word carefully, but he still looked confused"(16). this shows how he wasn't able to understand what Tom was saying he needed to do to be able to play soccer.

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It seems like we expect immigrants to learn English quickly.  Have you ever tried to learn a second language?  I've been working on Spanish for a while now--and learning a new language is HARD!

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Other than taking two years of Latin I have never tried to learn another language but from what I've heard it's extremely difficult.

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Out of Nowhere by Maria Padian is about a highschool athlete that goes to a prep school in Maine, his name is Tom Bouchard. He goes through life as a teenager and tries to fit In too much. There is also a kid named Ishmael, he is a Somali refugee he recently moved to the area. He has a hard time fitting in due to the racism, and the language change. Some students do treat him nicely, but many such as Hank are rude and mean to him. A big part was the soccer game with Toms team against Ishmaels team, he is treated very bad in this game because of his background. It is hard for Ishmael to fit into society because of of the new language. A quote that shows this is "Sometimes he surprised me and came up with a string of English that made you think he could speak the language" (Padian 96). This quote is Tom talking about him being surprised when he could speak English.

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Have you ever been able to work with someone who was still learning English?  I always feel bad because I know I use a lot of slang and talk really fast. 

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what is his background ? 

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