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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. One way that Tran finds ways to carve out his place is to read, not just to improve his vocabulary, but so he can have the same cultural references as the typical white guy, using Clifton Fadiman’s The Lifetime Reading Plan as a guide. 

At one point in the story Phuc’s father beats him so badly on his butt and the back of his legs with a metal rod, that he can’t sit down in school the next day. His second grade teacher, after several prompts to sit, calls him to her desk and he breaks down to explain why he can’t sit. She decides to call his parents and asks to visit. During her visit, Phuc is forced to wait in his bedroom, terrified this interaction will cause him to be beaten again. When she leaves, his father explains that she told them about the incident and how parents in America can’t hit their children as much as parents in Vietnam, and to Phuc’s surprise, his father heeds her words. He reflects, “My father didn’t beat me that week. Nor the next week. And he didn’t beat me for the rest of that school year. It was a long reprieve for me, and I was thankful for it.” (Tran 67)

Based on this idea and the ideas from your book, what are examples you’re seeing of where Americans aren’t explaining things clearly to immigrants and it’s causing problems? Or where, after a brief explanation, are simple things resolved after clear communication?


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In my book “Out of Nowhere” by Maria Padian, The main character Tom lives in a predominantly white town in maine. The town that he lives in called Enniston has recently become a settling spot for many Somali refugees. This in turn has created some issues when it comes to explaining things to the Somali refugees especially when it comes to the language barrier between the two races. One big instance of this shown in the book has to do with the soccer team Tom is on because of all of the Somalians that have started playing with him. As the soccer team starts incorporating Somali players like Saeed, who is someone that Tom becomes good friends with, there are many moments where the language barrier between the two races causes tension on the team. Most of the American players assume that the Somali players will immediately understand the dynamics and unwritten rules of the team and what they are saying to them. One instance in which Tom assumes that they will automatically understand him is when he says, “I realized I’d stopped trying to figure out what Saeed understood and what he pretended to understand. I just talked to him.“ (Padian 96). Although this does not work because of the differences in their cultures and how they each approach teamwork and competition in different ways. Also in some cases instead of the players taking the time to explain so they can all properly understand one another's views they become impatient which creates a bigger gap between the two groups. This shows how the lack of proper communication can cause even further problems and division within groups.

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Are there any specific conflicts that have developed from this gap?  Have there been any fights or drama? 

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Yes, there were a couple instances were the two groups got upset with each other but there was one instance that escalated to the point were a fight broke out between two white teens and two Somali teens. The two white guys were both senior starters on the soccer team and one of the Somali guys was a Jv player on the team.

 

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In my novel “Girl In Translation” - Jean Kwok it is about an 11 year old girl who moved from Hong-Kong to New York with her mom which was a big cultural change for them as they spoke a different language, did their own things differently than others etc. Kimberly and her mom, who is called Ma in this novel, were looking around for apartments but the only ones they could find were described as no heat, no furniture, and kind of in a sketchy area.

I've noticed that since my character doesn't speak clear English she is being treated different and not being shown what is right and what is wrong which brings me to the question which says "what are examples you're seeing of where Americans aren't explaining things clearly to immigrants and it's causing problem." in the novel while Kimberly was in class she had no idea what was going on and the teacher just ignored her and kept explaining her class while Kimberly sat there helpless because her teacher wouldn't help her respond since Kimberly didn't know English. therefore Kimberly struggled and didn't have anyone to lean to to help her understand more clearly just because she was labeled different because she was from a different country.

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Do you think Kimberly views herself differently because of how she's treated?  Do you think all self-worth is influenced by those around us? 

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well Peyton, that is a very astute observation you have confined to that response. I have to say, I am quite impressed you had managed to make a connection that acute to how this book's plot functions. it is quite the common theme these books to have the protagonist have some sort of mishap attempting to communicate to others. the strife brought by this obstacle is emphasizes an immense amount in all shapes of immigrant media.  

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I find your reading material summary to be one of which is very well expressed and, to my knowledge, passes on an astute clarification of said reading material. I believe that the answer of which you hath, with the understanding of which you have possessed, gives an in-depth explanation on how this persona interchanges with a society of which they are adventitious of, and, to a great degree, how it pertains to their immeasurable magnitude of incomprehension of the English language and how it makes their life in the Americas strenuous and burdensome. I tip my hat to you. 

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How do your see the incomprehension of the English Language influencing the characters in your book?  Or are they inhibited by something else? 

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In my book Behold the Dreamers by Imbolo Mbue. The main characters Jende Jonga and his wife Neni move to America from Cameroon. To have a better life for themselves and their six-year-old son. Jende lands a job as a chauffeur for Clark Edwards who works as a senior executive at Lehman Brothers a big corporation. Through this job, he is able to support his family.  Throughout the book Jende Mr. Clark's driver meets a lot of people surrounding Mr. Clark including his secretary who when Jende has a conversation with for the first time has a misunderstanding because he doesn’t know much about American culture “This person, Enron … I don’t know who he was.” Leah burst out laughing. She laughed so hard Jende feared she was going to choke on her smoke. “Oh, Honey!.” she said, still laughing. “You really just came to this country, huh?”(Mbue 50) This quote shows that because Jende didn’t know much about the culture of America instead of trying to teach him about it she made him the butt of the joke to make fun of him for just coming into the country. This happens quite a bit more throughout the book as he talks more with Mr. Clark and Vince he doesn't understand American culture fully because he just moved to this country and they don’t attempt to teach him about it. Causing further misunderstandings.

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Why do you think people belittle Immigrants like that?  Do you think it makes them feel better about themselves?  Are they doing it on purpose?

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In Out of Nowhere, Maria Padian tells the story of Tom Bouchard, a high school senior living in a small town in Maine. Tom’s life is relatively quiet and revolves around playing soccer for his school team. However, this changes with the arrival of several Somali refugees, particularly one named Saeed. Tom becomes curious about him, and he admires his soccer skills. Although Saeed doesn't speak much English, Tom, as captain of the team, offers to help him. Over time, they become close friends. However, things take a turn when Tom and his friend Donnie are caught sneaking into another high school to paint over their rival's rock. Tom is sentenced to 100 hours of community service and must repaint the rock. Meanwhile, as more immigrant groups arrive at school, communication becomes difficult due to language barriers. This leads to segregation based on culture, religion, and language.

Tom is walking through the halls of his school when he sees a black kid sitting on the floor: "There he was, a random kid sitting on the floor" (Padian 43). He is totally lost, with no clue what to do or where to go, and he barely speaks English. Also, he doesn't know anyone: "Everyone - black, white - just ignored him" (Padian 42). Tom waits for the halls to clear out, then tries to talk to him and walks him to guidance.

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What is Tom doing to close that communication gap?  Is he making good relationships with the refugees?  

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In the book Immigrant Odyssey: A French-Canadian Habitant in New England by Félix Albert, Albert and his family, who do not speak English and are illiterate, move from Québec to Lowell Massachusetts in hopes of better fortune. In May of 1894, after Albert had somewhat established himself as a businessman in Lowell, a depression hit and everybody was suffering. During this time, a creditor from whom he had borrowed a lot of money threatened to foreclose his mortgage if he didn't pay him immediately. After some negotiation, they agreed that if he paid off an interest payment by June, he would give them another year. Feeling thankful, Albert pays him immediately on the spot. Unfortunately, this man was not honest with Albert. Albert writes, "It had occurred to me to ask for a written agreement to extend the payment date, but I decided to take his word. This was a mistake because a few days later he came to my house with a lawyer and announced that he had decided to foreclose his mortgage." (Albert 83). Since it was the middle of a depression, Albert could not borrow money anywhere. He had to sell out by selling a few of his stores at a loss of $10,500, when the buildings had cost him $16,500. He was losing them for a $6,000 mortgage. Many deals fell through, and creditors pawned and auctioned his possessions. He was able to find a little luck and settle on a run-down farm, back on the lower rungs of the ladder.

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Why do you think some people take advantage of others, especially when they’re facing difficulties like a language barrier?

 

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Sounds like the creditor straight up took advantage of Albert's language barrier to rip him off.  How can we as American citizens help other immigrants so that this kind of thing doesn't happen to them? 

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