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1-4: Because we can see things through Chief's perspective, we gain insights into the setup of the ward that another narrator might not have. One of the major components that Chief discusses in this first section is the different types of patients in the ward. 

 

Based on what Chief tells us and what we can infer through conversations, what are the major differences between the Chronics and the Acutes? Chief categorizes himself as well; to what extent is this an accurate categorization, to what extent is it not? 

 

How does he view what is going on compared to other people (staff and patients) on the ward? How do others perceive him compared to what is he really like? Give textual evidence from both Chief and from dialogue between other people on the ward to support your ideas. Avoid just showing one perspective. Be clear about what inferences you can make based on your evidence.

 

Make sure to use at least 3 quotes from the first 4 chapters to support your assertions. Include in-text citations. For our purposes here--since we know the text--just a page number will suffice.

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       The main character is called Chief. Chief is an observer, everyone thinks he can’t hear or comprehend anything but in reality that's what he wants everyone to think, this is shown when he says, “All of a sudden I was scared he was because he knew the way I was sitting there with my knees pulled up and my arms wrapped around them, staring straight ahead as though I couldn’t hear a thing, was all an act.(23pg)”. Chief wants everyone to think this because he wants to be able to have the upper hand over everyone else in the hospital. One of the major things Cheif observed was the two types of patients in the hospital, “...younger patients, known as acutes because the doctors figure them still sick enough to be fixed(15pg)” and “Chronics. Not in the hospital these, to get fixed, but just to keep them from walking around the street giving the product a bad name(15pg)”. The Acutes and the Chronics don't communicate with each other, instead, they separate each group and get one side of the room. Chief considers himself well but I don't believe that he's all there. At the beginning of the book, he is talking and says "When you got something under your belt you're stronger and more wide awake, and the bastards who work for the Combine aren't so apt to slip one of their machines in on you in place of an electric shaver. (6pg)". This sentence makes me think that Cheif is a very paranoid person. He's so untrusting that he believes that the people working at the hospital will replace his electric razor with something else. Another example of this is the first quote above, where he suspects the new person knows he isn't actually deaf. The fact that he would make everyone think that he's deaf is very telling as well.

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I like how you went in depth about the Chief's sanity and explained clearly why you do not believe he is mentally all there. I do agree with you that he does not seem to be mentally stable and so he may become an unreliable narrator down the line if his mental state begins to slip. Your explanations were clear and concise as well. Good job!

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I like how you did a deep dive into Chief's sanity and whether not he is really acute or chronic. Is he really not all there it is it an act? Or is it a bit of both?  

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There are two types of patients in the asylum: the Chronics and the Acutes. The Acutes are not as far gone as the Chronics, “the doctors figure them still sick enough to be fixed” (15). The Chronics are divided into three groups, “Walkers like me, can still get around if you keep them fed, and Wheelers, and Vegetables” (16). However, Chief is putting on an act, “[McMurphy] was laughing because he wasn’t fooled [...] by my deaf and dumb act” (24). The Acutes have conversations with other patients, play cards, practice different activities like rolling cigarettes, and much more, while the Chronics either mumble around doing nothing or are completely incapacitated. Chief is categorized as a Chronic, however, he acts like he is mute, but his thoughts run rampant with color. He has the memory of an elephant in how he recalls his interaction with McMurphy, describing his hand in great detail, and how he interacts with other patients. 

Chief is a reticent and introspective man, many perceive him as ill or “crazy” because of the way he presents himself, however, he is all the more different. Chief also sees reality differently from others, he believes everyone is out to get him, “they got special sensitive equipment [that] detects my fear” (03). The “Black Boys,” as he calls them, are hospital staff simply doing their job, but he thinks they are trying to make his life a living hell- he is scared of them. According to most patients, Bromden is timid, “he’s scared of his own sh-sh-shadow. Just a bi-big deaf Indian” (24). Bromden is quite resilient, he quietly listens to the happenings inside the asylum and knows much more than most patients, “[I] crushed it [the capsule] open [...] in the broom closet [...] I saw a miniature electronic element” (35). Chief is a very intelligent and sneaky man, contrary to what most believe. He interacts with others as if he is crazy, but he is simply over-analyzing the situation at hand. Chief is much smarter than the other patients, most are too far gone to discover the menace lying in the asylum. 

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Based on Chief's description of accutes and chronics, we can assume that accutes can be helped. Accutes function better and have lessened psychological problems. Chronics on the other hand have worsened psychological issues, and can’t function as well as accutes. They have chronic issues that can’t be fixed. “...All the patients who aren’t outside, obedient under her beam, are wheelchair Chronics with catheter rubes run direct from every pantleg to the sewer under the floor.”(29) Chief characterizes himself as a Chronic, but he says chronics are subdivided into two groups. Walkers who, “can still get around if you keep them fed, and Wheelers and Vegetables.”(16) To an extent he is chronic because he has “born-in” flaws that can’t be changed, but he can still function and walk. So to some extent, he is ok, compared to other Chronics. 

Chief goes into deep description about how the 3 black men take him to the shaving room for a morning shave. He describes it in a way that is forceful and gruesome, where he is manhandled by the black boys. He holds in the screams until they get to cutting around his temples, and then he no longer can. The Big Nurse comes down the hall to silence his cries, and he says “she jams wicker bag and all into my mouth and shoves it down with a mop handle.”(7) This is a great example of how Chief perceives the ward first hand. The extremities of this description give us the perspective that ward patients are treated with little pity. That they are forced through these horrible experiences. And at the end of it all, Chief claims that these experiences seem too horrible to have actually happened. “But it’s the truth even if it didn’t happen.”(8)

McMurphy’s perspective of the ward is much different than Chief’s. When McMurphy makes it to admissions, he comes in very arrogant. He is going to do his own thing and he doesn’t comply with his first cleaning. McMurphy doesn’t seem to be intimidated at all by the black boys, or the nurse. He is boisterous and instead seems to intimidate some of the other patients. “The Acutes look spooked and uneasy when he laughs…”(19) McMurphy seems to view the ward as a place that is better off for him than his last location. Instead of working in a field on a farm, he will take up gambling with other patients. He doesn’t seem to take the ward and its staff very seriously and talks about taking authority from the President of Patient’s Council. He tells the president that he is, “waiting to see him and that this hospital ain’t big enough for the two of us. I’m accustomed to being top man.”(21)

Other patients in the ward see Chief as a big kid that’s afraid of his own shadow. They say that he’s just a deaf, dumb Indian. They describe him to have an Indian face with black, oily Indian hair. But McMurphy sees through Chief’s deaf and dumb act, and lets Chief know that he isn’t falling for the act. 

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I like your points where McMurphy has more power than the other members of the asylum and how you compare Chief and McMurphy to each other. You did a great job emphasizing their differences and importance to the novel.

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I agree with you FPerrier that the Chief is very intelligent and over analyzes everything in order to have a better perspective on the evil that is overtaking the ward. 

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What might the story look like / feel like if someone else was our narrator?

McMurphy? Nurse Ratched?  An omniscient narrator that could dip into everyone's thoughts? 

 

I think we gain a lot with Chief but wonder what else could have been.  If we had to have some one else, who would you want and why? 

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I think having Nurse Ratched as the narrator would create an entirely different perspective on this novel. I mean think about it... Patients in the ward with mental illnesses and psychiatric problems are obviously going to think in ways that don't connect with reality. So reading "The Cuckoo's Nest" through the lens of Chief will like give us a negative view of the things that take place in the ward. I would love to also be able to read this novel through the lens of Nurse Ratched. She has authority over a ward full of sick patients, and she is also all connected with reality. We would probably get a much more appropriate and professional perspective of the ward.

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You mention that evil is overtaking the ward.  Does this mean that "evil" wasn't already there?  Or is this just the introduction of a new evil in your mind? 

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I really like where you analyzed chief by saying "Chief is a reticent and introspective man, many perceive him as ill or “crazy”! You took the words right out of my mouth!

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Based on what Chief tells us and what we can infer through conversations, what are the major differences between the Chronics and the Acutes? Chief categorizes himself as well; to what extent is this an accurate categorization, to what extent is it not? 

The Chief describes the Acutes as patients who can be “fixed” and have a chance of returning back into society. The Acutes are patients who have not fully lost their sanity and are still capable of doing everyday tasks. The Chronics are patients who have lost their sanity enough to be considered not acceptable for society and people who are crippled to the point where they cannot support themselves. He categorizes the Chronics into three separate groups, “Chronics are divided into Walkers like me, can still get around if you keep them fed, and Wheelers and Vegetables.(16pg).”They are too far gone according to the ward to allow them to leave the hospital. The Chronics, unlike the Acutes, do not have a chance of leaving the hospital and are not in the hospital to be treated for their issues. The hospital is meant to keep the Chronics off the streets from society. The Chronics are as the Chief describes it,“Not in the hospital, these, to get fixed, but just to keep them from walking around the street giving the product a bad name.(15pg).” The Acutes have a chance to walk free in society once again but it is an unlikely fate for the Chronics to have the same freedom.

 

How does he view what is going on compared to other people (staff and patients) on the ward? How do others perceive him compared to what is he really like? Give textual evidence from both Chief and from dialogue between other people on the ward to support your ideas. Avoid just showing one perspective. Be clear about what inferences you can make based on your evidence.

The Chief perceives the ward as a working machine that is running to abuse the patients. He sees the nurses as workers helping to encourage and spread the abuse. He sees the ward as a place full of evil. He watches the despicable acts taking place all the time in secret by pretending he is deaf. Everyone in the ward believes that the Chief is just deaf and dumb so they talk badly of him. He plays into the beliefs of others and continues to hide the truth about his deafness in order to observe without disruption. He reveals that he pretends to be deaf when he he says, “All of a sudden I was scared he was because he knew the way I was sitting there with my knees pulled up and my arms wrapped around them, staring straight ahead as though I couldn’t hear a thing, was all an act.(23pg).”The others in the ward do not know that he watches and hears everything that is taking place around him. 

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I love the way you went into detail about the differences between acute and chronics! You were very precise and specific!

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Is there something you specifically agree with, disagree with or learned from the post here? Let's go further in responding. 

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I really like this take, since this is also mostly what I had gathered from these first few chapters. The language you use is easy to understand, yet specific enough that we get a deeper look into the characters from what you talk about.

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From what Chief describes, Acutes are people who are curable, who still have hope that they will leave soon. However, he explains that most people who come in as an Acute, got changed over to be Chronic due to “...a couple of mistakes..”(p.16) made by the hospital staff. Being Chronic to Chief was similar to describing a life sentence in prison. You were separated from others, thrown to the side like “...machines with flaws inside that can’t be repaired, flaws born in, or flaws beat in…”(p.16) Chief acknowledges that he is a Chronic, but goes even further by creating sub-categories. The sub-categories of Chronics are the ‘Walkers’, ‘Wheelers’, and ‘Vegetables’. Chief comes right out and tells the audience that he is a ‘Walker’ and that his category “...can still get around if you keep them fed”(p.16) whilst the others cannot, due to their worsening conditions. He also goes on to tell the audience about the atmosphere and the deviation between the two groups. The Acutes stay to one side, where it's cleaner, nicer, etc. And they don’t dare cross over onto the Chronic side due to how it “...smells worse than a dirty diaper.”(p.18) The Acutes also seem to talk about him rudely to his face because they believe that he is so far gone, that he cannot even comprehend simple conversations. Chief's depiction is seemingly accurate, as it's really only making groups based on condition and how mobile and in need of care they are. On the other hand, Chief’s depiction of the staff vs. the patients may be distorted. He claims things happen, such as when Ruckly was taken “...away to be fixed. They strapped him to that table, and the last anybody saw of him for a while was just before they shut the door on him”(p. 16) and states that “the staff, now, they consider Ruckly one of their failures..”(p.17).

Whereas I believe that the Big Nurse is strict on rules, what Chief is implying, would put her license at risk for being revoked, and would require doctor signature and approval. We can see that she likes things to stay orderly and for people to comply, so there is always a possibility of it being accurate but when she speaks to Mr. McMurry she uses manners to say “Please understand, I appreciate the way you’ve taken it upon yourself to orient with the other patients on the ward, but everything in its own good time….I’m sorry to interrupt you and Mr. Bromden, but you do understand:everyone…must follow the rules”(p.25). Which she goes about telling him to do things quite nicely but also passive aggressively. 

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I like the connection you made between how Chief describes Nurse Ratched, and the reality of what would happen to a nurse if Chief's description were to be totally true. This helps us understand that Chief's perception of the ward and its systems may be flawed. Because the ruthless and cruel description he gives of the shock room is very unlikely to take place in an actual psychiatric ward.

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The emotion or wording you use in this post is really helpful. It gives more life to the story if we were only looking through posts and not the book. We get a feel for the characters and you help us sympathize with Chief, while giving us good information about the book in general.

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“One side of the room younger patients, known as Acutes because the doctors figure them sick enough to be fixed…” (15) “..the Chronics. Not in the hospital, these to get fixed, but just to keep them from walking around the street giving the product a bad name.” (15) Chief considers himself a Chronic, and divided into the group of “Walkers” He considers Chronics “.. machines with flaws inside that can't be repaired, flaws born in, or flaws beat in..” (16) It’s mentioned that everyone thinks Chief is deaf and that he cannot speak. He is rather the opposite of both of those but almost no one else knows that. That could seem that his “condition” is worse than it is. In terms of other peoples point of view, this categorization can seem accurate, but if they knew he could hear and talk, their categorization of him might change. He is pretty aware of what is going on, but he also seems to have some sort of hallucinations. About how the ward is a machine, how the nurse is in on it, ect. So from this point of view, the "Chronic" part seems accurate.

It seems that Chief observes many things with great detail. He might perceive things differently than the others do. “.. but even if he’s big, hes scared of his own sh-sh-shadow. Just a bi-big deaf Indian.” (24) They underestimate, or dont think too highly of him because they think he is deaf and dumb. And compared to McMurphy, Chiefs view is very different. This could chalk up to be because McMurphy is very new, while Chief and the other patients have been there for years. And it seems that Chief is much smarter than he lets on, seeing the ins and out of the place (minus his hallucinations) While others go along with the hierarchy, or how things work, Chief sees through it and peoples true intentions.

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