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In these chapters we're provided with a picture of Christopher McCandless as he eschews (deliberately avoids) gifts (giving or receiving), money, and ownership of extra.  He's trying to create a life for himself that is very different from the life and values he was raised with.

Let's think about connecting to Christopher McCandless (and Alexander Supertramp, his alter ego) and answer the following:

Discuss a part of conventional (every day) society that you'd like to give up--(This can be small or large. Some of the smallest things might prove to be more difficult.)

What would be the benefits? What would be the drawbacks?

Could you give it up if you lived in the same setting you do now? Or would you have to go it alone like McCandless does not to fall back into it? 

How do you expect you’d fit into society / your current relationships if you were successful in eschewing what you had previously accepted?

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Phones, this is something that has been too advanced and to idolize this small touch screen we hold in our hands. There is a lot in this world and people on average spend 6 hours a day on their phones. That is a lot of time spent on an item that is really only good for calling people in an emergency or say you need to make plans with a person. This for me would be an item i feel i could give up at any moment. The benefits of this would be that we would be more interactive and present in our own life's. With reduced screen time it forced people to get outside and do things leading to better mental health. I am very going individual so my phone doesn't hold me back for much. For other people it may be difficult due to their sense in direction and needing a GPS, or not great memories for phone numbers etc. A way I would fit in without access to a phone is through socializing face to face at school, the gym, and even in public. 

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I definitely agree with you. Having phones is a really wonderful thing and have been able to open up so many doors for us. Sadly, many people spend too long on their phones. Your piece made me realize that reduced screen time would allow for better face to face connections and such. In public, everyone is always looking down at their phones and not engaging in conversation with one another. A decrease in screen time would do a lot for society as a whole.

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I totally agree with this, considering I wrote about this topic too. I like how you pointed out how it's a "small touch screen we hold in our hands". When you break a phone down like this, it shows the real idea of what a phone is, though for almost everyone in America, it is something so much more than an object. It is their life for some, including myself in some ways. My question to you is, would giving up memories like pictures be hard for you, or do you think you would find it easy to let that all go?

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I unquestionably agree, phones are useful items however when it comes down to fake lives, unrealistic body expectations that have been determined by society, and infallible  expectations, all contributing factors to lessen mental health. Phones like you said are good for calling in an emergency or to make plans with someone, however should not make you feel bad about yourself that’s not why it was invented. Reading your post strengthened my realization on how badly phones affect people. Hearing from multiple posts that they would give up their phones/social media because of how greatly it impacts their lives is honestly sad and sickening. Giving up phones is quite difficult in society today because they have evolved to be used for everything and it’s just a norm. It is crazy how much time of our lives are spent on a small object that causes these issues, not having our phones so advanced would contribute to society significantly.

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A part of everyday society that I would like to give up is the idea of comparison. Although in “Into the Wild '' they don’t have social media, nowadays we do and are presented with this problem in society. While social media can be very useful and is a form of communication, it can also bring a lot of mental health issues and mess with the way people think. Without the idea of comparison, people would feel better in their own skin. The only setback is that social media would still exist and with the way our brains are wired, we would still fall back into that routine of scrolling through social media and comparing ourselves to others that we may not even know. Since that mindset still exists, having to isolate yourself and get away from the “real world” would be much needed. With the idea of comparison gone and accepted, being able to feel confident is helpful in all relationships. Not only would you feel good about yourself but you would also make others feel good about themselves.

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I really enjoyed reading your piece. I found it intersesting that you chose a feeling instead of a physical object. With comparison is it very easy to pull up my instagram and all of a sudden feel bad about what I am and then crave what I see on the screen. I sucks that this idea of comparison ruins our minds and shifts it to something different. 

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It's nice to hear your insight! I think that after reading the novel, we can see that McCandless was focused on leaving the "real world". He was definitely focused on getting out and not having to worry about reality. Even though McCandless didn't focus on things like the idea of comparison and whatnot, he still had his own troubles with family that made him want to escape. I think that if he had thought out his idea a bit more, he would've been able to survive longer in the wild. 

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I agree! I believe we live as a whole where no one has as much confidence as they used to. I feel like it has been normalized that people feel like they are avoiding being full of themselves which makes them pessimistic about themselves. Along with social media everyone is posting pictures and at times it's easy to compare yourself to them. Confidence is key to success.

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I'm glad you agree! I think that while McCandless didn't have to worry much about confidence and the idea of comparison, he had other problems with family and such that drew him to the wilderness. After reading the whole novel, we can see that he had lots of family issues that led him to having a "nomad" lifestyle. I believe that he did try to "escape" the reality of his family problems like how we try to "escape" the aspects of social media. Obviously, we aren't becoming hermits and living in the woods but we find ways to "escape" it like how McCandless left for Alaska. 

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Giving up my phone would be difficult. Just like anything that is used every day, it almost gets normalized for being on the phone at work, class, or outside. And although it is normal for that and not looked at as out of the ordinary, it really is bad for anyone's well-being. Giving it up, would make me feel more connected with nature, and in general, all around me. It would be hard though because I would not be used to it. My phone average sometimes is 6-7 hours a day, which is insane. I would probably have withdrawals from it for a while until I realize how much nicer it is to not be distracted. 

I think I would have a hard time being in the setting I am now. All my friends are on my phone just a click away. My family and I communicate through it while we don't see each other some days. I would need to maybe stick it out alone for some time before getting used to it. If I was around the environment I am in now, I would get jealous of everyone else and probably give in to using it.

I would definitely be looked at as odd when I would tell people I do not use my phone. They would probably not care, but it would take a toll on me. Some of the relationships I have are really only through the phone. My aunt whom I am close with lives in Mexico! I could never be close with her with no communication. And the same goes for my friend group. I can obviously come to their houses with no phone, but making those plans would be a lot harder than with one. And at school, I really only see them for a little while. This overall would be a struggle.

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You make an amazing point about phones. They are very useful and allow us to connect with people with just a tap. But phones have taken up a lot of our time connecting with others and the world. In your piece you mentioned how you are close with your aunt who lives in Mexico but not having a phone means no communication. I wonder if people would start to write more letters. I think a phone detox would do well for many people. As you said, there would be struggles but I'm sure that everyone would be able to connect in a different way. 

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The word "detox" here has me smiling.  It seems ludicrous and yet it just isn't. 

My understanding is that doctors actually changed the protocols for concussions because the depression people were experiencing by not being able to use their screens was worse for their health than possibly delaying the healing from a concussion.  

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Thank you! I wonder if people would start writing letters again too. I believe we probably would have to. We would have to cope somehow with missing our phones. 

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I can definitely relate to this. Phones have become a big part of today's society. I would be hard to give it up so easy because its the way we communicate with everyone. As much as it has lots of negatives, there are plenty of positives about this topic. The evolution of technology is an amazing thing and helped shape the future of communication. My phone is bascially my life and I would never want to give it up. 

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That is true Kaylee. I guess when I think about phones, I see them as having a negative impact, but they truly do have a lot of pluses if we are using them for the right reason. For example, if people only used their phones for facts, knowledge, looking at the weather, etc., it would be more beneficial than what the majority of Americans use them for. 

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I also have a high average screen time, think about that number, every day and how much of our life's are spent on our phones and not in the reality in front of us. It always leads me to feel that phones take our precious time we have and we seem to not care, if getting rid of that high screen time we could connect so much more to the real world around us. I struggle to think of ways this is achievable however, in todays society it almost feels like a necessity for everyday things, as more and more services are turning entirely mobile. What ways do you think exist to combat this phone pandemic? 

 

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Well, that brings up a good question. What would be something we could use so we could stop using phones so often? I mean, in the early 2000s, every phone was so new, and not as smart as todays phone. If people could all start using flip phones, I honestly think it would be beneficial. It is harder to get distracted on a flip phone with no youtube, facetime or tiktok. 

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I think phones are a great tool/resource. You have instant access to the entire world in the palm of your hand. The issues come into play with the apps that are created for our phones. That could be social media, entertainment, and games, etc. If I could get rid of shorts/tiktoks/any video in that “easy to scroll” format, I think it would positively impact me and everyone else in my generation. In my opinion there are zero downsides to getting rid of shorts and many benefits like creating more time for other activities, waking up on time, going to bed on time etc. 

I think I could get rid of them right now, if only there was a button buried in settings somewhere to turn it off. Getting shorts out of my life would benefit more than just me, It would make my relationships stronger because I have more time and would allow me to put more effort towards things that are hard like school.

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I couldn't agree more, when I was writing my piece I wrote about phones as well! Your execution on your piece was very good, great points made. I like how you mention this would make your relationships stronger, because I would've thought the opposite. I would think that because your getting rid of social media, it would be harder to have friends. You make a good point mentioning that it would strengthen your relationships. Great piece.

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I agree, phones are definitely a great resource to have. However social media such as tiktok and instagram, the “easy to scroll” format significantly impacts everyday activities. I am addicted to watching videos on my phone and I catch myself scrolling for hours, and it may seem as simple as deleting the app but it has a much greater impact. I do believe like you have said that getting rid of this addiction/video watching will create room for more opportunities and activities. Your post made me realize how life changing “easy to scroll” social media is and how common the addiction is in our generation. Because of this in society, people fail to realize that overtime their motivation is lessening and  lessening the experience time we could be having instead of scrolling.

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I completely agree, YouTube shorts and TikTok can be very addicting. In response to your comment about the button in settings, the closest I've found to something like that would have to be Screentime limits. However, those didn't work as I would simply shut them off when I wanted to keep watching....

I wonder if developers of apps like YouTube and TikTok knew the impacts of short videos on the brain and how addicting they can be. Or if it just happened like that. I would like to think it was accidental but you never know. I deleted TikTok around a month or two ago and my life has definitely improved, although instead, I've just resorted to substitutes such as Youtube or Facebook. Thank goodness they aren't AS addicting as TikTok. 

As hard as it is, my only suggestion would be to completely delete it. It's really hard and I still struggle with the want to scroll on social media, especially when it is so heavily ingrained in our generation's culture. It does get easier though! I'm currently in the process of comtemplating deleting Snapchat. What other apps do you think we could do without?

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The concept of time is ingrained in society. Clocks and timers are found everywhere—on phones, on TVs, on giant billboards that cover buildings within big cities. Its omnipresent presence constricts people, falsifying a literal “race against time”. I glance over at the clock, and it shifts several hours within a span of what feels like minutes. People can truly get lost in time. Unlike getting lost in the woods, where one can eventually find their way out, there’s no way to escape from time that has been lost.

In a way, I want to stop losing my way. I want to escape time.

Alexander Supertramp/Chris McCandless sought the same reprieve when he abandoned his watch prior to escaping into the Alaskan woods. There is a sense of freedom that comes without the knowledge of time. There would no longer be a looming present that dictates when I should act, and when I should plan. However, such abstinence from time isn’t plausible in my current setting. While time may dictate, it also provides a rigid structure in which society functions. The framework of school is made up of time. How long I work is based on time. It’s so crucial that taking that aspect away from daily life will not only affect me but also my surrounding environment. In a way, it makes sense as to why Alex/Chris isolated himself from his family. In order to escape the confines of society, I would have to escape society itself.

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Oh my god, this is such a good topic, that would be definitely difficult to give up! This is very creative and something I never even thought about when reading the prompt myself. This just shows how we look at the sense of time as such a normal thing. When you said "I want to escape time", I really thought about what that entails, and how hard it would be, but also freeing. I think the world would not know how to function without the direction of what the day looks like. But also, the upside, imagine a world where being late wasn't so frowned upon. Haha

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This was a very unique and abstract topic to choose. I agree that the topic of time can make you have freedom and help you keep your way. Your vocabulary throughout this piece was amazing and really brought your piece to life. You made a great point mentioning school and the framework of time. 

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Wow, I love how you talked about time. You really made me think about how much time is shown and is everywhere, almost everything revolves around it. however I do not think it is about escaping time, I personally believe it is how we perceive our time and how we think of it.

 

This brought to my mind how every minute, hour, day that passes we can never relive, we only get one chance to live, to make the best of each and every moment. Even the days we now feel are boring, or tough, or hate because we are in school, I feel one day we will in fact miss these days. With age I feel more and more that I am losing time I will not and cannot get back, but it is still early, I am not yet even 18 it is now instead of when I am much much older that I want to realize this, even those long hours at work with what seems to feel like a million hours left, to enjoy the time it is now because one day I know as I have been told that I will in fact miss the time.

My question I leave to you would be, what does time feel like to you? does it feel valuable, or do you feel you are wasting it? Or better yet, what is time worth to you? just a number or is it more.

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There's a lot here to think about. There was certainly a time when time wasn't an issue for us.  I don't remember caring about clocks (maybe my Dad's watch because it was cool) before I learned how to read one.  I recall hating it once I did learn.  

Think about all the stress that being on time creates and how often you have to end things you enjoy because a bunch of seconds, minutes, hours clicked off. 

We are governed by time so often--isn't that the largest thing we have freedom from on the weekends and on vacations? 

If it is so sought after why don't we escape it more? 

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Giving up an aspect of conventional everyday society provokes the mind to exercise, to challenge us to examine what we value and the extent to which we are willing to diverge from modern societal norms. One modern societal norm I would and have diverged from is most social media platforms. A benefit of doing this is an increase in presence, by which I mean that disconnecting from some social media platforms leads to increased mindfulness and the concept of living in the moment. Another benefit would be an improved mental state, meaning that social media is a breeding ground for comparing unrealistic life and physical appearance expectations and people making themselves out to be something that they're not. All social media usually is curated personas, and many studies have shown that the excessive use of social media leads to low self-worth, high inadequacy, and high anxiety on top of a few other things. Giving up social media such as Instagram, TikTok, and other platforms could potentially erase someone's issues with anxiety and very low self-worth, which I've personally discovered as a truthful aspect of diverging from today's societal norms and it's worth noting. The only drawbacks I can think of are isolation from friends, family, and general society as well as losing out on something that provides a sense of belonging and connectivity to the world and society, creating more of a lonely atmosphere and could potentially lead to a fear or a feeling of missing out and ignorance to the always changing trends and lingo of today's youth. 

Considering the benefits and drawbacks and also again, mentioning that I've already completed giving up most social media platforms, I have no problem dropping social media cold turkey. Social media has always made me feel inferior to everyone around me, jealous of their lives and their friends, and as an anti-social person, letting go of what I consider to be irrelevant to what matters in life, for example, the trends and the lingo of today, has opened more windows and only closed a few doors in my life. It's not hard to give up something that for me, personally, was more negative than positive. I find that I actually have deeper and more meaningful relationships with the people in my life, and my interactions with them are more focused and we connect on another level that social media never provided. 

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I like how you mentioned the harsh reality of social media. I find the media as a place that can be full of toxic information. As much as there can be good, there is plenty of bad. People like to spread false information and rumors and people also like to act fake. I agree that the interactions you have with people in person are the most important and that  dropping social media would be better for mental health.

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Social media is a real problem for everyone in our society today; it can cause some peoples lives to change for the worse. The aspect of telling the whole world what you are doing at any given moment is quite the reality we live in with a click of a button. People let what other people think of them control their lives; the thought of a social norm or a new trend will contribute to that. 

Social Media will not be going anywhere though, it has changed our lives in good and bad ways and as long as the internet exists social media will also. The best way to controlling your life around social media is having a good balance between that and a life outside of it. Cutting Social Media fully from your life is a very bold thing to do; props to anyone that finds a way to live without of it in the life that we live. 

Social Media is definitely a big part of my life. I mostly use it for the aspect of sports and knowing any insider information before most of the public. I do not let it control my life though and I very rarely post or comment on any form of Social Media and stay pretty much away from it. Keeping my life and opinion off the internet has kept me from letting it control my life.

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I congratulate you for giving up a lot of your social media platforms! I hope that doing this is benefiting you in the way that you said. I know that I personally struggle to break away from platforms like Youtube Shorts and Tiktok, I've noticed how much time I have wasted when I could be doing far better things. And your right, its not easy to break away from this form of media, but it's almost like an addiction where it keeps bringing you back.

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An aspect of everyday life personally and societally that I would like to give up would be social media, not my phone but social media apps. I find myself time after time mindlessly scrolling through social media for an unnecessary amount of time. However I can’t seem to break this habit, I always look back and feel I have just wasted precious time of life for things I will not care to remember, for a couple of laughs. However it is absolutely not worth the few laughs and dopamine because after I always feel a sense of reality hit me, some posts themselves even try to get you to realize you are wasting your time yet we keep scrolling anyway. There is always something better I feel I could be doing after I have finally closed the app after however long. Useless information that has absoluytelly no impact or affect on my life. I do believe in my current setting I could stop this awful habit, but it would take discipline. I feel as if I can and will, I have quit bad vices cold turkey before, but this one seems to pose more of a challenge. Each website I also use for useful types of things as well. I believe I would be on my phone much less around others creating stronger relationships, because even around people I find myself falling and zoning into a fake reality of scrolling what’s unimportant. I would also feel ahead of those who have not yet stopped their mindless scrolling time and put it to much better use.

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I can agree that people spend lots of time scrolling on social media for way too long. I also like how you acknowledged the fact that  people can be fake on social media. I feel like the most important relationships in life are the ones with the people around you. Today's society is less observant or unaware of what going on in front of them because they are distracted by social media that can spread unnecessary info. 

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Social Media has turned out to be a giant part of our life in the society we live in. The addiction of endlessly looking at your phone has turned into a really bad thing that we all have grown up into. Information about whatever that is desired can be found so easily and I do think that's why social media is used so much. We do not have to watch the news or go to the library to learn about new information. 

Having that balance between social media and a life outside of it is becoming harder and harder to do almost everything evolving our phones and the internet. All businesses now at least has a website and may even have a app, and social media accounts on multiple platforms. Getting away from Social Media and the Internet has almost become impossible with everyone adapting to it. 

My life has become incredibility harder to stay away from Social Media with everything I want about sports in on it. The new invention of Short Term content, YouTube Shorts, Reels and Tiktoks has made a way to make short videos more excess-able and more worth wild to watch. That type of content has made life extremely hard to stay away from Social Media because it is so easy to get invested into those videos. 

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I would give up internet and using social media. Everyday people waste most of their day away on YouTube, snap chat, Instagram ETC. If i gave up social media I would be more aware, be more active, and be way more productive. I think that if I gave up social media I would have to abandon some friends and family to see it through but in the long run it would be worth it.

Alexander Super tramp leaves his family, money, and all technology behind because he has a dream to go to Alaska. As for me, I do not think I would have to go that far but I would probably lose friends, and be more isolated.

In the end though, It would be hard but I would be a more active person to my community, and it would do me some good losing social media.

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Giving up the Internet and exiting the world of social media is an escapism most of us relate to. For me, the social media apps you mentioned have drawn my attention away from more important things—like family and schoolwork.

At the same time, social media serves as a connecting branch to those in my local communities, as well as families from around the world. Severing this connection would mean I have to sever ties with my family and friends. This isolation from society is something I wouldn't be able to go through.

But you bringing the topic of social media highlights how consuming it is in everyone's lives. By giving up some of our attachment to it, maybe we all can be more free of its restraint.

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I definitely agree that I would be a much more productive person if I didn't have a phone or social media. I remember when I was in middle school and didn't have a phone, and life truly was great. I had time to get my homework done, but I also was much more creative. I had hobbies such as painting, reading, and playing outside. I think boredom is a good thing because it forces us to find ways to stimulate our brains, instead of scrolling for hours to fill the void. 

Alex's methods to achieve his dream were definitely excessive but I can empathize with that feeling of not being able to escape charactertistics of something unless you escape that thing itself, especially with social media. I love TikTok and funny videos, but I didn't love its place or its impact on my life. 

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I'm glad you talked about how connections to friends and family would be lost and how it's okay. For me, just giving up that sort of thing would be incredibly hard, its an addiction at this point and I highly doubt that I would survive a month without it. I hate how I see this issue and I do nothing about it. I am a bystander to my own addiction and I just watch it happen. I and many others need to see that too. I don't know about you, but I communicate with my friends through so many platforms whether that is Messages, snapchat or discord etc. It would be great to slim it down to just one. There is nothing but benefits to dropping most social media.

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The Media is the number one biggest propaganda spreading things in the world. Everything we listen to on the internet is the media. They will try to pull you in believing in anything they think is right even though it is not. I would not want to get rid of all of the internet though because the entertainment purposes of it. 

The media is the way we learn things all over the world and would be impossible to get rid of unless you go fully away from the internet, but being smart about what you watch and what you read into is definitely possible. The knowing of pretty much anything is our right and getting rid of that would turn very badly for the whole society. 

The benefits would include the stopping of spreading false information in many forms; the drawbacks would mean important information would never make it to you and would seem we are back in time with how long information takes to spread. 

In the society now would be impossible to go this way to have a successful life where everything is now about the internet. Sadly going on the internet includes seeing all types of information being spread. Fitting into the world now with nothing would be quite difficult but not impossible depending what you do with your life. Having a job in the world and choosing not having access to the outside world when you are not working is possible. 

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I agree, there is an overpowering influence among society due to the media. I do believe that there is a lot of false information that is being spread. I think a large problem is that it has made society naive. They see these sites that look professional and assume that what they are reading is factual. This has caused many different problems through the past and more expected in the future.

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I 100% agree with your statement, although the internet has evolved into an informational stature it can definitely be unreliable. When looking through others' posts I came to realize that all internet including phones in general and social media are something that everyone struggles with, not just me. One thing that conflicts with me about the internet is that everyone can access the media. Whether that’s one of us in high school or a kid in elementary school. The internet to me is seen as insecure. The internet for example Google, should have age restrictions based on the websites that are provided, such as media that have gore, sensitive topics, and or inappropriate topics. By achieving this idea, I believe that to access google you should have an account, stopping younger generations and kids in general from exposing themselves to these things or unreliable information. Especially at a younger age most don't know what's wrong and what's right.

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I understand your idea here, but wonder if pulling away from media is the answer to the problem instead of finding more and conflicting media to figure out what is really occurring. 

I can't (and won't) argue with your idea of media bias. We see a lot of examples from all kinds of media and political leanings, but I would worry that because news and info will get in one way or another leaving it all behind may actually make the problem you're describing worse.

I think canceling or walking away from things called "infotainment" and shows that don't position themselves clearly as news, but as something else while having news content would be a great first step.  

It is difficult not to see this as a huge problem in society, but with freedom of speech it is difficult to see the solution except to make decisions concerning what we choose to consume. 

 

 

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I wish that I could get rid of money in society. Being poor is stressful, being rich can cause an inflated ego, and for the average person, it can lead to sacrificing passions in order to survive. From a young age, we are taught that we should pursue careers that will give us the biggest salary, even if that isn’t what would make us the happiest. When I was 8, I told my dad I wagted to be a librarian, and he told me no because they “don’t make a lot of money”. Now, one of my goals in life is to become a lawyer, and while I do have a passion for helping others, part of my reasoning is because of how much money they make. If I didn’t live in a world run by money, I would probably want to be someone who simply travel around the world, or pursue singing/acting as more than a hobby. I dislike that I am forced to perpetuate this cycle of having a career I’m not completely in love with for the sake of possibly becoming wealthy. 

I could always pursue the arts or another career and ignore the financial drawbacks, but I would be faced with disappointment from others in society and I might not be able to afford the growing living costs. There is always a chance I could become successful; however, I can’t afford to take that risk. I don’t think I would fit into society as well as I do now because my family would be disappointed and it has been so ingrained in my head that I feel I would be disappointed in myself as well for not sacrificing for the sake of money. 

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If we all gave it up that might create an interesting idea for a utopia. 

If one person gave it up on their own could they survive?  Are there enough people who would be willing to trade labor for goods and services instead of money?  Would they even be able to with today's requirements about reporting income? Could a company pay someone in an alternative way? 

My largest piece of advice for young people is to not get bills. Paying for gas if I take the car and go someplace is one thing and I can avoid it, but car insurance is another issue.

Once bills begin they often have no choice but to work where before working is an option as is not working.  Once there is a need to work, it is tough to make that need go away. 

 

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I definitely do not think that if one person completely gave up money they could not survive. They might possibly, such as if they have their own produce means of sustenance, but even then that requires some monetary funds. The only way this would work is if there were another person or a group of people who could trade resources, but as you said, in a world run by money, it would be difficult to make a community like that. I'm not sure that a company could pay someone in an alternative way, because the pro of money is that it can buy you anything, instead of gaining a specific good or service for your labor. 

I hope I won't have too many bills when I grow up, but in our future economy, I don't see that happening. And with technological advances, there are so many costs that weren't there twenty to fifty years ago: cable, wifi, streaming services, phone, etc. I can only hope for myself and for others to find passion in a job that pays well. 

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The thought of becoming an adult has always seemed to be an awesome, the more and more high school goes on I think about I have zero want of paying for stuff with my own money, I do agree Money can cause loads of stress and getting rid of the feeling of wealth would be interesting. Sadly in our society that would become a very bad situation with the government controlling our lives. 

The best way to alleviate that stress is watching how you spend your money. To a certain degree it doesn't matter how much money you make if you are smart with how you spend it. The smarter you are with your money the feeling of money insecurity may go away in a way. 

I have always been good with saving my money for things that I really want and not having the urge to spend it the second I receive it. I have bought some really expensive things but still have a good amount of money in the bank. Having a sense of categorizing your money into different sections so knowing how much you are willing to spend is important. 

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I know what you mean, up to this point I always though that becoming an engineer of some kind would be the only way to be successful financially. I've always loved tech, and convinced myself that an electrical engineer was the way to go. But now that I have visited colleges and talked to some students, I found a completely different degree that I wouldn't have even considered before. It looks like it'll be just the right amount of difficulty and enjoyment, and I feel it has a potential to be a successful but I would certainly have to work for it.

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A common societal aspect for decades now is the idea of paying for education. Now this is a large-scale idea but I would like to see how things would’ve panned out if it wasn’t as much money for education. The amount of independent potential that so many people have that they couldn’t pursue because of economic status is insane. Now obviously there would be drawbacks like people putting less effort into school and a lot of schools wouldn’t be as funded. But for me it would help me boost my career because I wouldn’t be shoved into debt. To me this has raised more conflict with capitalism because people who are rich can fund their kids for better colleges whereas it is a lot harder for poor families to go to crazy schools (even with financial aid). I think that I would be looked at differently from the people around me because we would be rated on our academic abilities and we would all be less together after graduating high school. Because we would all move our seperate ways because education is much cheaper.

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I completely agree, as someone who also comes from a poor home it is difficult to motivate myself to want to go to college because I would be stuck in dept for many years. Its difficult living that life. It make sense for you to talk about this because we are expected to be held at the same level of equality but other schools with higher education are more expense then others who may not have that high education. For people in this situation free schooling wouldn't be taken advantage of because of that opportunity to save thousands. That's why with the free two years it is getting taken advantage of. i enjoyed your piece and was not surprise that you chose this topic, but i am impressed how you chose to bring something you're passionate about into an assignment like this. 

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The idea of "paying for education" is even more important now for us seniors who are about to submit college applications. Your sentence, "...people who are rich can fund their kids for better colleges", accurately reflects the current nature of college admission. With tens of thousands of students applying to universities around the country, there is a discrepancy between kids who have opportunities and those who don't. This gives one an advantage over the other on the playing field, despite colleges saying they review applications "holistically". The burden of paying for higher education can perpetuate a cycle where kids go to schools that are a financial fit, rather than an academic fit. You also bring up a good point where we would "be rated on our academic abilities". Wherever I go, I want to be seen for my capabilities instead of my financial worth.

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I had a wonderful professor who spoke to us again and again on this.  Wes McNair, a Maine poet and former Poet Laureate of the state, would go on and on about how our college education should be free or virtually so since the nation needs the young to replace the old in all capacities. At the time I thought it was because he had kids in college. I knew one of them, but now I realize what he saw coming.  

There are a number of sides to the idea...

One of course is that if college were free people might be more likely to choose majors that are already flooded and don't have good prospects long term... A comedian / and talk show host I often watch talks about the number of acting majors exceeds the number of roles available and how most won't make it.  

At the same point, don't we want the young to chase their dreams?

The conversation about how to pay for college brings a harsh reality to the college search process. 

How would a college model work if the students didn't pay? 

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Your post reminds me a lot of my own in the way that we both expressed concerns about the cost of education and how that makes it a risk to go to college. The cost of education has so many drawbacks, such as people giving up on their dreams, and the fact that student loan debt is heavy and has long-lasting financial impacts. 

One of the big issues with free education would be the cost for taxpayers. Is it really free if we have to take out so much money to pay for society's right to it? I personally think that it is worth it, along with other things such as healthcare, but not everyone shares that viewpoint. I hope one day we figure out a solution that works for everyone. 

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I’d like to give up some social media because sometimes it can be toxic. The media causes alot of tension and worry for people. It can also be problematic and a way to cause drama. The benefits of this would be that people would be more down to earth and social in the real world. Drama levels would be reduced and their would be less issues in the world. I would be able to give it upo in the same setting. I’d fit into society less in a way because everyones life revolves around the media. It might be difficult to communicate with people and to spread information.

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I agree with this topic a lot. This topic can be seen on a large scale as well in society. You see people changing the way they act and I think it has made people less bold and more two-faced. Instead of approaching people with your problems and trying to come to a good conclusion they will often talk smack behind people's back and have an argument about it over the phone. Overall this has changed the outlook on society as a whole.

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Social media has evolved to a point where it dominates our lives. I am incredibly guilty of waking up in the morning and immediately reaching for my phone to check notifications from Snapchat or Instagram. They encase us in a bubble that's hard to escape. I like how you pointed out a benefit of social media, which is that it facilitates communication between humans. I can text my friends and they can respond within mere seconds. We can have a full conversation as if we're face-to-face when in reality, we're miles apart. But then again, I get lost in that bubble and forget the present reality. Your concerns about social media echo a point Sarah had made in her post, which was about the idea of comparison. When people are presented with a platform to "showcase" themselves, they would reveal their best aspect. It creates competition and fosters an environment of comparison and tension. 

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What's funny is that rather than reject social media and apps (or create new kinds of apps that move us away from the model), we just create new apps that we think will improve the experience. Isn't BeReal supposed to offer a more truthful experience? 

I had an interesting conversation with my Young Writers AVEC group and it was clear that they really hate their cellphones, but just can't break up with them.  They likened it to a relationship that they knew wasn't good for them, but that because of social expectations and pressure, they just couldn't quit. 

I'd be curious to know how much time people would get back in their lives if they didn't have social media accounts. 

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I agree with the realistic aspect of your topic. I have found that all of the negatives to social media is over powered then the postitives. Getting rid of it would be helpful leaving people more active and involved with their lives. I have also noticed that a lot of people seem to get addicted to the media and its beyond unhealthy. 

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If I were to choose something that is a part of conventional society I would contemplate it would be social media. Social Media has evolved to be a helpful resource to learn and is a way to contact friends and family. However with these positives there are also over weighting negatives such as; cyber bullying, harassment, addiction, and self comparison. The benefits of giving up social media for me would entail less addiction to phones and less destruction to personal well-being. For these reasons it would be beneficial to give it up, however I also use social media as a way to be educated whether that's watching cooking recipes, science, home lifestyle and living, and or funny videos that I come across. Because of the evolution of social media to this day it would be harder to give it up in this setting because a lot revolves around social media. And if I were to I could go at it alone however it's just not how today's world is, maybe I'd fit in to some parts of society however not the social aspect of it. 

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The last statement is very well spoken and worded, I text or call almost everyone using one or another social media platform, It is rare to see even a saved phone number for a contact in my phone. It makes me curious, whether I would still speak or keep in touch with certain people. I can't necessarily imagine a world without it because of how ingrained into society social media is. As much as I hate to admit it, at times I feel I need my phone for things, as if it is a necessity to living. Now try to imagine an even more, very real future we have ahead of us, what role social media plays in our life then?

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What is a part of our everyday society I would like to give up? Well, something that we all experience and most of us hate is failure. I'm not saying I want to give up failure itself because, well, that wouldn’t be possible. What I am saying is that I want to give up the stigma around failing. Failure is something people are afraid of and embarrassed of. But what if we, as a society, could make failing seem like a step that needed to be taken? Of course, there are failed attempts at things that end up far worse than a simple error, for example, an error in surgery that takes someone's life, or not getting your animal “fixed” at the vet which leads to unfortunate death in shelters. These mistakes can keep the stigma, but things like failing a test, or falling off of your bike shouldn’t be seen as bad or embarrassing. Giving up this stigma wouldn't be something I'd have to go live with a moose to do, but it wouldn’t be easy. We live in a society that judges first and walks in your shoes later… much later. Even though it would be hard to get everyone on board, it wouldn't be hard to live through this change. It is a personal change that can be made. I think this could build relationships, it could show people that you are an accepting person. I am a person who believes everything happens for a reason, accepting that failure is human shows that you have what it takes to overcome your challenge and try again. 

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Phones in general are what is influencing our generation. Everything we do or rely on is based on technology itself. We use Iphones both for learning  and just for the fun of it. People like to use their iphone for games and to connect with people on social media. A phone is basically your life.

Benefits of getting an iphone is that you have more updated tech and more opportunity. But the sad part is, people get addicted to them which causes issues. It can cause people to be antisocial and non communitive. It makes a society very screen obsessed and people might not realise whats around them. That can create danger in our society.

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