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In this post for the Ted Talk I’m using 3 questions to ask yourself about US citizenship by Jose Antonio Vargas. In 3 questions to ask yourself, the Ted Talk talks about how and what it truly means to be an American citizen whether it’s by birth, law, or otherwise. Jose has had personal experience of the situation, “That's how I found out I was in America illegally. And I'm still here illegally.” (Vargas).  Jose wants citizens to reconsider their personal histories and what makes people see people as an American citizen by asking three questions. Where did you come from? How did you get here? Who paid?

 

 The book I am reading is called, All American Muslim Girl by Nadine Jolie Courtney. Her father is a Muslim and her mother used to be American but changed to a Muslim. Allie is the main character and the daughter of them both. She looks nothing like a Muslim and has nothing to do with being a Muslim. Her father wants her to keep her Muslim identity a secret and doesn’t share his culture or language with her, ...taking my dad’s lessons about hiding to heart, amplifying the American part of me, being whatever people need me to be.” (Courtney 12). People from her school always talk about how scary and killer Muslims are and all she can do is just witness what’s being said. 

The connection between the ted talk and my book is that both of them are not legal Americans. 

How does an immigrant or a family member of an immigrant figure out their personal identity?

 

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The book I am reading is Girl in Translation by Jean Kwok. The main character of this book is KIm CHang who moved to New York with her mom from Hong Kong. They moved to America searching for a better life, but instead are greeted with the opposite. Kim and her mom barely speak English which is not helpful when it comes to Kim going to school. She struggles to understand and communicate with others, especially her teacher. After school Kim joins her mom at a clothing factory in Chinatown where there are poor working conditions and poor pay. In Hong Kong, Kim was very smart, and at the top of her class. When she moved to America and experienced trouble with her teacher, she decided that she was going to learn the American way of schoolwork and become top again. She is doing this to one day show people around her that she has earned a place in this country. This is a way that Kim figures out her personal identity. She knows she is smart and she enjoys it too, so if she can use it to help do some good she is willing to try. Another way she figures out her personal identity in a new country is by keeping her traditions from Hong Kong. "For the Chinese New Year, the factory was closed because no Chinese would work on this day...Anything that happened on this day was symbolic of the entire year to come..." (Kwok 82) She and her mother celebrate the best they can together. I think this helps her discover her personal identity because it will allow her to accept the customs and traditions of a new country while also keeping where she came from close to her. 

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Do you know why her mom would want a better life in America? Did something happen that made her want to move in hopes of a better life?

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Their life in Hong Kong wasn't great. I don't think the book goes into detail about why, but they do say that America is the goal for a lot of people there. Her mom was originally supposed to marry an american man who was visiting Hong Kong, but she fell in love with a man who lived in Hong Kong, Kim's father. The American man married Kim's mom's sister (Kim's aunt). The American man didn't go to Hong Kong just to marry Kim's mom, his intent was to marry though so that is why he married Kim's Aunt. 

Because Kim's parents were married they stayed in Hong Kong, but when Kim's father died they needed to move to America for better survival chances.  

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Both of our main characters seem to be in a slightly similar situation where they both have little to no English skills and suffer in school for it but have a desperate desire to prove themselves. It also appears they both are unable to get jobs that support them sufficiently which seems to be a common theme for many immigrants trying to adjust to American culture.

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Nick from Strike Zone and your main character have some similarities because both characters come from different countries and move to the New York, but Nick's parents moved to the U.S. before Nick was born so he doesn't have to worry about being an immigrant and because he grew up in the U.S. he knows how to speak with all of the people around him.

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In the book Strike Zone by Mike Lupica, The main character Nick is 12 years old and is a pitcher for the Blazers a baseball team in Bronx, New York. Nicks parents though came to America from the Dominican Rebublic with work Visas and made the decision to live there forever. Nick's sister Amelia has Lupus a disease that eats away from it's self. Her medical bills makes their parents have to live very tightly with money. The main problem is that Nick's parents are undocumented Immigrants and can get deported at anytime. U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement also known as ICE are not liked by Nick, “ICE, not nice"(13 Lupica). Nick knows ICE Officials can turn his dream upside down on becoming a pitcher in the MLB just with a click of a button. My book is closely related to yours and the Ted Talk because Nick's parents are also not legal immigrants but it differs in which the main character in Nick is actually a U.S citizen because he was born there. Nick has a hard time staying focus with baseball because of the unknown of if his family will ever be kicked out of the U.S. Nick wants to be a baseball player when he grows up but he knows its only an uphill climb from where he is now to become one of the best. 

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Do you think Nick will go through with his dreams and become a baseball player?

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I think it is hard to say at this point because there is no indication his parents will get deported, but Nick makes me believe he is concerned about his future and his dream has a good chance on not happening. 

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In The Cooked Seed by Anchee Min, Anchee is an immigrant in the U.S. from communist China in the 70s and 80s. In China, she worked in labor camps and worked in expendable jobs making propaganda films. She and her family suffered from several ailments throughout her life that they had to work through to stay alive, her mother had tuberculosis and her father had stomach cancer for example. She secures a visa by getting accepted to the Chicago institute of art. Once she makes it to America she is forced to work 5 jobs at a time to pay her tuition and stay afloat. She first lives in the dorms with her roommate Takisha. Takisha tries to help Anchee learn English but she mostly just confuses and blames her for her lack of understanding about political issues, “‘Well, it's too complicated to explain.’ ‘Try, Takisha, would you? I want to learn.’ ‘I can't talk to you,’ Takisha said. Strangely, her voice sounded tear-filled. I am sorry, I mean no offense, Takisha. Talk to me, and educate me.’ ‘You wouldn't understand.’” (Min, 57). Anchee carries her intense work ethic and personal ideals with her from China. She struggles to pay off her tuition and make a liveable income even while working 5 jobs. Her employers often exploit her lack of understanding of the workplace in the U.S. and take advantage of her desperation. She doesn't have the time to explore her personal identity. The customs and ideals she brings to the U.S. either hinder her, her intolerance to accepting help from others for fear of punishment or shame for example, or the people around her don't understand her thought process and can't help her express herself, which she finds is extremely isolating.

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What does her parents think of her working 5 jobs to pay off her tuition and a livable income? Are they supporting or helping her in any way?

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her parents aren't aware really of what she's going through in America. it costs a lot of money that she can't afford to make long-distance calls home and in her letters, she makes sure to send pictures of her looking happy. as far as financial support goes her parents are extremely impoverished and can't afford to take care of themselves. Anchee does have other distant family that has helped her in order to get a visa but she would rather work five jobs and still not get by than be a burden.  

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Similar to your book, the main character of Girl in Translation book also works and cannot speak much English. She only works one job, but it is very hard on her and her mom. She also speaks very little English which is a big struggle too. You also mentioned Anchee having an intense work ethic. I think that her and Kim share this too. 

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