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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. One way that Tran finds ways to carve out his place is to read, not just to improve his vocabulary, but so he can have the same cultural references as the typical white guy, using Clifton Fadiman’s The Lifetime Reading Plan as a guide. 

 

Early on in the story, he discusses the relief that deciding to go punk made him feel because it gave him a group to identify with, even if it wasn’t true to who he was, “...I wanted to be white. It’s not a proud feeling, but it’s not a feeling that comes from the shame of being brown. It’s a tired feeling…Punk alleviated that exhaustion—or at least I thought it did. In my spiked leather jacket, Subhumans T-shirt, Doc Marten books, and ever-changing haircuts, I forest the portrait of a kid who belonged, a kid who fit in by not fitting in, and even if that portrait ultimately turned out to be flat and shallow, it had the illusion of depth.” (Tran 7). 

Based on this, and your own text, what is the better option for immigrants trying to assimilate; should they fall prey to stereotypes and fit into the boxes already made for them or should they carve their own path? Or is there an in-between?

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in the book we are not from here by Jenny Torres Sanchez we learn about three teenagers and what there life is like in Guatemala we also learn that they have always had an escape plane a plane to get out of Guatemala if any thing goes south. all three of them latter find them self in bad situations, the two boys have found them self's being blackmailed by someone that might kill them. the girl finds here self  having a baby with that same man and she doesn't wont to be with him and she doesn't wont the baby. because of this they all find them self's in need of using that escape plan and fleeing from Guatemala into america which will not be an easy journey but they have to do it.

in my book the characters have already fallen into the stereotype 1 because they are fleeing the country because of bad situations and because they are illegally coming into america. another thing is people often amuse that immigrants often have that escape plane planed out for a long time and in this case they did. "When you live in a place like this, you're always planing your escape." (Sanchez 1) its not always a good thing to fit into stereotypes not all stereotype's are bad, and for the characters in this book they have no chose but to fit into that stereotype they have no chose but to legally which is what most people think immigrants do. 

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I love that you talk about how illegal immigration seems to be the biggest stereotype in some ways because I also feel like when we say the word immigration, that's where people immediately jump. Because your book is focused so far on just the background information of them coming into America, I'm curious what process their escape plan involved. Did they have to work with anyone else to smuggle them out of the country, or were they able to leave using regular methods? Did they have to obtain fake papers? How did they get them? Was it difficult for them to come up with their escape plan or does is the information easy to find if they ask around?

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the escape plan was something that they have had figured out for as long as they can remember they have always had a plan if they needed to flee from there home. as for there plan nothing of it was illegal they took to buses then a boat then from there they went to a shelter for people immigrating  to america then they will later hope on a train to america .they are doing this all on there own  

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In my story, my characters have already left their country and seem to be trying to assimilate, the girl from my story Kimberly does seem to fit in with her stereotype of a smart Asian kid.

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Your book and my book, Strike Zone are completely different. Nick the main character was born in the U.S. but his parents made the commitment to move to the U.S. to settle down.

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In Girl in Translation, by Jean Kwok life is seen through the eyes of Kimberly Chang, a young girl at the time, who tells the reader what it was like for her when she moved from Hong Kong to the United States with her mother back in the 1980s. Kimberly talks about the struggles she's gone through because she moved to America, like the language barrier and how because of that she does poorly in school because she doesn't understand the teacher well, how she and her mother don't have much money so they have to live in a dilapidated, cockroach and rat-infested apartment and work at a clothing factory where they get paid 1.5 cents per skirt they finished. Kim still having trouble with school decides to play hooky for the next two weeks, because of her first-day experiences,  but she knew she had to go to school eventually, and when she did it was still just as confusing to her due to her lack of English speaking skills, but she was able to decipher word problems and pass the test she received that day, but when she needed an eraser, which she called a rubber, and the teacher got upset at her not knowing what she meant and told her to go back to her seat where Kimberly meet the frizzy-haired girl that becomes her friend. All throughout when Kimberly acts as she did when she lived in Hong Kong she seems to get in trouble or she seems to have more issues when she doesn't try to assimilate, for example, “Filled with shame for something I didn’t at all understand, I hurried back to my seat" (Kwok 53). This is when Kimberly went to the teacher for an eraser but, she didn't know the western, English word for eraser so she called a rubber, which here a rubber is a derogatory term for a condom, and because of this she caused an unintentional interruption to the class because of the immature humor of these children, and she doesn't understand that, so the teacher thought she was purposefully disrupting the class, so he yelled at her.

 

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So in your mind it can just make things harder for people who don't fall into stereotypes for things, or do you feel that Kim is trying to fit into a stereotype and still being judged for it?

Either way, it seems like she's not able to find the best balance to avoid social persecution. What are some things that you think Kim could do differently to help herself be less judged or bullied?

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I think that it is a little bit of both but I think that if she fell into the stereotype she would be judged harder not only by the kids in her class but also by her friends at the factory. I think that if she was less shy and talked to the people in her class they might understand her situation better and be less likely to make fun of her, but on the other hand, younger kids can be ruthless, especially if they don't know any better.

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i like how in both my book and your book they the characters fit into the stereotype but in different ways mine fit in to the illegal immigration stereotype and yours fits in to the stereotype of her culture

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In the book Strike Zone by Mike Lupica, The main character Nick is 12 years old and is a pitcher for the Blazers a baseball team in Bronx, New York. Nicks parents though came to America from the Dominican Rebublic with work Visas and made the decision to live there forever. Nick's sister Amelia has Lupus a disease that eats away from it's self. Her medical bills makes their parents have to live very tightly with money. The main problem is that Nick's parents are undocumented Immigrants and can get deported at anytime. For every immigrant it is different for how they should assimilate but for Nick its in between. Nick is actually already a citizen of the U.S because he was born there but for his parents it is different, “Nick feared ICE would tear his family apart the same way Michael nearly was”(21 Lupica). Nicks parents moved to the U.S and they do everything any other normal person does, pays taxes, works a job. Nick's admirer he famous pitcher for the Yankees Micheal, had the same fears that his dream would be ripped away from him because if his parents get deported he has to go with them. Nick has many friends and doesn't have any problems being himself and loving the game of baseball. All Nick wants to do is follow his dreams to play baseball professionally. 

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I love that your book has examples of how the conflict can be things completely outside of their immigration, but how it's also often in the background of their minds. In my book, Phuc also doesn't have huge impact that other immigrants might because he immigrated at a young age---he speaks the same language, wears the same clothes, and has been to school within this same town for his whole schooling. Do you think that Nick, like Phuc, takes advantage of his opportunities, like the ability to choose to be punk and rebellious, or if you think that he is careful to do things that show appreciation for the decisions his parents have made?

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I think because Nick is so Passionate about baseball and his dream is to become a Major League player I think Nick will stick with his parents. I could also see Nick change if his parents get deported for being undocumented immigrants because that means his dream would be at a standstill and he would have to find something else to do. 

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