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In the Ted Talk Why Children of Immigrants Experience Guilt and Strategies to Cope, spoken by Sahaj Kaur Kohli, it discusses how a lot of immigrants experience immigrant guilt. “If we think about an immigrant's journey to the West, they may not speak English well, so a lot of children of immigrants may act as a translator, may help pay the bills, may help take care of younger siblings, so caretaking, and we know that immigrating and immigration can lead to a lot of family and generational conflict, as everyone in the family is navigating their own acculturation journey, creating a sense of belonging in the host country. So a lot of children of immigrants are often mediators for cultural conflict within their family.“ (1:20 ). This guilt causes them to feel responsible for not just their own success, but for their parents as well due to the fact that they sacrificed a lot to get their child to the promise land they immigrated to, which Sahaj realized while working as a therapist for immigrants.

In the novel Girl in Translation, written by Jean Kwok, the author focuses on Kimberly’s hardships and her issues with not just assimilation, but generally trying to better herself as a person and student in order to provide the world for her and her mother. It is made clear that Kimberly feels she has to take care of her mother, which she does in a multitude of ways. This includes being her translator and even helping her out at the factory to try and make enough money to keep them afloat. Kimberly pressures herself and is pressured to feel like these are her responsibilities. “...’most people never leave this life. It’s probably too late for me…’...she hastened to reassure me. ‘That’s all right. That’s what a parent is for, to do whatever is necessary to give her child a good life. But you, don’t forget you were the smartest student our primary school in Hong Kong had ever seen. Nothing can change how bright you are, whether your current teacher knows it or not. Most importantly, nobody can change who you are, except for you’...I understood what my task was now… ‘I’m going to get us both out of here, Ma, I promise’. I had to go back to school on monday. Pa was dead and no one else could save Ma from this life. The image of Ma cutting thread as an old lady in the factory was unbearable” (chapter 3, pg 50-51). With this pressure held over her head, Kimberly experiences a lot of hardships and is stressed in this foreign world full of opportunities that feel out of her grasp due to the fact that she is an immigrant.

Based on your book: What kind of connection can be made between the issues of assimilation and the pressure of becoming something great which ultimately caused immigration guilt, such as does assimilation impact or cause this pressure and stress? 

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People shouldn't have to try and assimilate if theyre from another place in the world. In my book A character named Saeed has to assimilate and try and fit in because him and his family come from Somalia. Saeeds mother cant even speak English and Saeed struggles with English himself, everyday he struggles to be like the kids at his school. One of the only ways he can fit in is by playing soccer. So far in my book a boy named tom is helping Saeed with school and soccer. Tom ends up getting himself in trouble with Donnie for vandalizing Maquiot high school. Tom 100 hours of community service and has to help Saeed with his homework. ¨But with 99 hours of service ahead of me, I figured i could find something to do there.¨ (115)Tom is also starting to become like Donnie which isn't good because Donnie is a bad influence. 

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So based on your book and Saeed's issues with trying to fit in in their school, assimilation plays a factor in that, meaning that he feels he has to fit in and he feels guilty that he doesn't fit in all because of his immigration Status. Is this a true observation, or is Saeed experiencing guilt because of some other reason? 

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Yes its true! very good observation!

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That's a great point, people from different countries have a hard time assimilating. Also,  people in the book make it even harder for Saeed to assimilate because he has people bringing him down like john asking for his age, john thinks that Saeed is too old to play soccer in high school.

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in my book, my character Saeed joined the soccer team because he loves soccer but when he does join he gets accused of not being allowed to play because he looks different than the others on his team, and the team they're playing against never saw him play with them before. In my book, my character is getting called out for his age. John thinks that he is older than 18 but Saeed says he's exactly 18 years old. the soccer coach stands up for Saeed. the coach stands up for Saeed by talking to john because the coach is angry at john for asking and the coach thinks it will bring down Saeed's motivation and morale.

"They have no grounds, no grounds whatsoever, and this is only going to undermine his. undermine the whole team. how can you not see that? why are you participating in this?"(Padian pg.220-221) 

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Like Saeed, A Girl in Translation's main character, Kimberly, also experiences this kind of judgment from her peers which causes her to feel guilt. Because of the fact that she is fresh off the boat, she and her mother have very little money to afford the luxuries they see the American kids wearing.

“When I went past them, one boy…whistled and said distinctly, ‘Nice skirt’ There was a burst of giggling from the group. I pretended I hadn’t heard and hurriedly sat down in a seat against the wall, but I wanted to keep walking through the wall and into the distance. I resolved to remove the rhinestones from my skirt that night and I quietly picked at them with my fingernails as I watched the rest of the kids come in” (Chapter 6, pg 126)

Does your character also have financial issues that play into their assimilation troubles? 

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Im reading the same book and I thought these were great observations and points! 

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