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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. As he ages, he realizes that he wants nothing to do with his Vietnamese heritage and works hard to present himself as anything but an Asain nerd stereotype. By the time he reaches middle school, his parents have been able to move into a house in a new part of town. Phuc takes this opportunity to reinvent himself into a full punk skater. No matter how hard he tries, however, people often slip back into only focusing on he’s clearly not white. 

 

This issue seems to fade into his thoughts often, and even when he’s accepted into a new group of friends, all cursing punk skaters, he can’t let go of the fear that he’ll continue to be stereotyped, “I hadn’t consciously chosen to be a nerd but had somehow drawn those numbers int he social lottery of sixth and seventh grade. This never mattered to me until I cared, and the weight fo this sudden awareness suffocated me…I know knew that I wanted to be a skater, but wanting that was not good enough. The group could still deem me a poser…someone who tried too hard to belong.” (Tran 135)

Based on this and what you’ve read in your own book, how difficult is it for an immigrant to become their own person? Are there times where they aren’t defined by their culture or other stereotypes?


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In the book We are Not from Here by Jenny Torres Sanchez  we have three teens Pulga, Chico, and Pequena all from Guatemala. The three teens have had an escape plan out of Guatemala for as long as they can remember and  have never had to use it until now. Pulga and Chico are in bad with a man who might kill them if they don’t do what he wants. Pequena is in bad with the same man but for a different reason; he got her pregnant and she doesn’t want the baby. So the three of them decide to flee to America. First they have to take two buses and a boat to get to Mexico. Once in Mexico they find a shelter for people going to America. They then have to go train hopping where Chico gets a concussion which leads to them staying in Mexico longer than they planned. After their stay in Mexico they then have to do more train hopping were chico ends up falling off and dyeing. because chico dies they end up staying in mexico for another few days. on the day they decide to continue there journey pequena has to force pulga to continue the journey witch he does not wont to do. after there last train ride they have to travail 3 days through the desert witch does not go well pulga ends up giving up half way through witch results with him being picked up by border petrol. peuguena ends up continuing the journey were she is picked up by some lady and she lets her stay with her. pulga ends up going to stay with her fathers sister were she awaits trial 

 

 

in my book non of them end up having the chance to become there own people they don't get the opportunity to succeed. 

Chico never had the chance to become his Owen person before he dies. when Chico was alive all he ever did was follow the others he did what ever they said. 

for pulga she doesn't get a chance to find her self in america she never gets the chance to become who she wants to be but that doesn't mean she doesn't find out other things eater pulga resizes that she has it better then other people because she is still alive and others aren't "it reminds me i am alive. it reminds me who i am it reminds me i want to live and maybe i will make it".(sanchez 344) for pulga the journey of trying to get to america helps him realize more then what being in america would 

for peuguena we get to see her find her self she gets to be the person she won'ts to be. "flor," I whisper. Her brow furrows in confusion. "my name is flor i tell her. not peguena. i don't want to be called pequena ever again". (sanchez 336) along the journey peuguena finds who she wants to be she won'ts to leave her old life behind and find a new one for her self and in doing that she won'ts to change her name  

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I like that you highlight your characters separately. I also like that you point to names as being a component to helping immigrants become more of who they want to be seen as. This was a huge thing that is reflected in my book. At one point in middle school, Phuc asks his peers to call him Peter, and immediately is tormented by his peers for having a name that is slang for genitalia. But in his process of describing this, he talks about how receptive his parents were of him changing his name. He even mentions how his mother responds to three different names because at various times she's asked people to call her different names. Even Phuc's parents, who have been pushing him to learn Vietnamese and stay closely connected to their family, want to be accepted as Americans. 

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I find your book to be very interesting because while your character's end up not having the chance to become their own people and cannot succeed in it. My book is different from yours because my character Allie resulted in becoming her own person not following her father's dreams for an "all American life". She opened up to the people and joined a Muslim group to explore and follow her culture. 

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In my book, All-American Muslim Girl by Nadine Jolie Courtney the main character is Allie. Allie is a Muslim, however she looks nothing like a Muslim. Her mother converted to being a Muslim while her father is a pure Muslim. Allie looks like the stereotype American white girl and nobody realizes she's a Muslim. Her father wants a all American dream family, and therefore Allie does not know much at all of Muslim language, instead she's very fluent and educated in the American ways. Allie is friends with popular people at her school and she fits right in because nobody knows she's a Muslim, yet. Allie later on started to drift apart from being the all American girl her father wanted her to be and joined a Muslim group after school to learn about the culture. After she had learning done and was proud to be in the culture, she revealed to her school and friends that she was a Muslim, no longer hiding it. With the huge revealing, everyone was shocked about how she's a Muslim and they started to fear her even though she's the same person as she was before, "'Did you know I'm Muslim?' She blinks. She blinks again. ... 'You're being serious, right?' she says. 'Yep.' 'Wow' she finally says. 'I had no idea!'" (Courtney 204). The quote goes to show her friends having that surprise reaction to her revealing she's a Muslim and not having much to say about it. After her friends find out and the school she deals with the conflict of getting bullied for being a Muslim and one of her friends, Mikey, started to bully her for it, "...I'm walking down the hallway before comp sci when somebody yells, 'Allahu akbar!' It echoes all the way from the lunchroom to the library." (Courtney 260). This was Mikey yelling at Allie in Arabic to embarrasses her in front of the school with the football team he was hanging out with. To once Allie's friend, he's now making fun of her and being rude, humiliating her. This makes everything difficult for Allie to become her own person with all the nonsupport she got from Mikey and her father wanting the American dream. At the end of the book, she can finally live in her culture with support of her other friends that are willing to respect and learn the ways of Muslims and her father which gives around here and there to teaching her. She has the support of her boyfriend Wells, rest of her family, and her Muslim group that helps her understand the Qur'an to explore her culture. 

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It's good to hear that your book ends on more of a positive note and that Allie can experience some peace. I still feel like it's upsetting that she seems limited to only connecting in some ways with people who share her cultural views. I like that you include this incident with Mikey and how his interactions change because he finds out about her religion. As disheartening as it is, this seems to be a common thread in books. Phuc also experiences this in my book. People that he thinks he is getting along with, literally every time he thinks that he's fitting in, someone makes an appearance saying things like, "GO BACK TO 'NAM" or calling him a gook. 

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your book seams interesting. the difference with yours and my book is that yours ends on a happier note were mine ends on a not so happy note 

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