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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. One way that Tran finds ways to carve out his place is to read, not just to improve his vocabulary, but so he can have the same cultural references as the typical white guy, using Clifton Fadiman’s The Lifetime Reading Plan as a guide. 

Early in the story, Tran talks about his family’s relocation to the United States after fleeing Vietnam. After being bounced between multiple camps and multiple countries, they finally started to settle in Pennsylvania, “We needed to blend, adopt our new country as it had adopted us. My parents were navigating all the straits and inlets of living in America, holidays like Halloween and Thanksgiving, driving in the snow, the difference between ketchup and catsup.” (Tran 20).

Based on this idea and the ideas from your book, how quickly are immigrants pressured to assimilate? What aspects of culture do they need to assimilate to early, and what aspects can be avoided or pushed until later?


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My book, Parrot in the oven: Mi Vida By Victor Martinez, is about the story of a Mexican teen Manuel Hernandez who is living in America. His family is living in poverty and his father is too proud to go on government assistance. Manny’s poverty is evident when he interacts with other students with more money and opportunities than him. Manny experices pressure to assimilate when he considers joining a gang in order to gain respect from his peers and prove his worth to his abusive father. He sticks up for his family and evetually realizes that his family is whats most important. Manny and his family are teased for being different, "I oughta kick your frickin' ass right here, just ta show you no one's too good for me." (Martinez 37) Manny comes to his sisters rescue and sticks up for her. 

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My book deals with similar issues where Phuc decides to turn to the skateboarding crowd as a group of people to fit in with. These kids are completely against the ideals that his family puts forth, they lie, do drugs, don't care about school, and don't really care about the law. As he gets more and more involved with them, the relationship with his family, particularly his father, diminishes. His father is also abusive, but he justifies it as being a cultural difference. In Vietnam, it's perfectly acceptable for a parent to beat or whip their child to discipline them. But Phuc realizes from a young age that this is different for all of the other kids he goes to school with and it's part of what drives him into his rebellious nature. As he assimilates more to the culture, his relationship with his father suffers in new and different ways. 

I'm curious in your book, do you feel that Manny's father would find the government interference would force him to comply more with the culture? Or are there other people that make government assistance seem like it's a weakness? Where do you think those values of not accepting help come from? Are there any mentions as to why the father feels this way?

Finally, does Manny express how he feels about this? Does he wish his father would accept help or does he understand why his father wouldn't?

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