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In Phuc Tran’s book, Sigh, Gone, he discusses the difficulty of figuring out his identity as an immigrant in a mostly American neighborhood. From questioning his name to determining where he fits in the social structure of his high school, Tran has to navigate learning who he is with an additional barrier to the average teenager, having a whole other culture as a large part of his life. One way that Tran finds ways to carve out his place is to read, not just to improve his vocabulary, but so he can have the same cultural references as the typical white guy, using Clifton Fadiman’s The Lifetime Reading Plan as a guide. 

At one point in the story, he references The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne and how Hester agrees to the social contract of being labeled as an adulterer with the scarlet A on all of her clothing. He transfers this piece of literature to the experiences he had in the second grade where one peer relentlessly referred to him as a “gook”. Despite not knowing what this meant, he handled it as a great insult, punching the other student in the face, therefore creating a social contract that he was, in fact, a “gook”, “I could have ignored it or allowed my ignorance to shield myself, but that very ignorance would have further isolated me, and ultimately dehumanized me…But if I allowed myself to be harmed by words, I was showing them that I belonged at least by virtue of understanding their language. And all I wanted was to belong.” (Tran 56). 

Based on this, and your own text, how impactful is language in how immigrants are assimilating? What are other types of social contracts Americans hold immigrants to? Are these helpful or harmful?


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In my book The Leavers By Lisa Ko A young boy named Deming whose mother had left him at a young age who is now 21, he never knew that she got deported and she didn't want to tell him. In my second part of the book it shows Demings mothers POV who  is a Chinese immigrant and her name is Polly Guo who worked at a nail salon in New York and now she is an English Teacher in China, she has never mentioned her son to anyone, not even to her husband. Polly got deported back to China from America. I think this is harmful for Polly because she had to move away from her family in America without even telling them and now has to hide her previous life from the people she is with. “ When the hostess looked over, I took my fingers out and tried to smile . “ Business call  “ I said. “ In this quote Polly was listening to a message from Deming and had to lie about what the call was about. (Ko 117) 

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Hi mvattaso25,

I find it interesting that the two parts of your novel have different points of view, one from the son and one from his mother. I think this helps to emphasize the author's message about perspectives from people who are immigrants and try to assimilate to the dominant culture. Before Polly is deported back to China, do you learn anything about the language barriers she faces while working at the nail salon? Does your novel talk about her experience at the nail salon and how people might treat her differently? 

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Her friend Didi got her the job at the nail salon. She worked there for about six years and was not treated well.  Polly trained 25 hours a week but did not pay for the first three months but she kept her tip. For training at the nail salon, she had to pay a training fee to her manager Rocky. After three months of training she found out that her tips weren't covering what she needed to pay for. She decided to do nail art to get higher tips but would have to take out loans to pay Rocky the $200 for training. A new manager was taking over and making her hours get cut to replace with new workers making them leave if they won’t leave. 

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In my novel, my character Saeed has trouble communicating with the rest of the soccer team because he doesn't speak English. 

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Hi igreenwood25,

Is Saeed held to any other expectations being an immigrant? Do people expect him to speak the language of the dominant culture?

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In my book Tj Powar has something to prove, she experiences cultural differences between american standards and Indian standards, her friend got bullied at school because someone made a meme about her being hairy. Language is impactful because of Tjs parents didn't grow up learning English so Tj has to learn how to communicate with both the English speakers and her Indian speaking family.  

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Hi ldorman25,

Does TJ have a hard time fitting in to society because she is different? Does her being hairy relate somehow to her culture? 

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The impact of language when assimilating is a tough process because languages are hard to learn,In my book Refugee by Alan Gratz one of the shorter stories about a kid named Mahmoud and his family they struggle with the language barrier when the were put in the processing camp so they could cross into hungry and assimilate into Hungary economy for a little bit before they got up and left the processing camp. A couple more examples of the language struggles is that Mahmoud and his family have trouble understanding Ruthie because shes speaking German and they speak Muslim so its hard to understand each other when they were trying to have a conversation. 

 

Some of the other social contracts some immigrants make can be good for them and bad for them the reason it can be a mix of both is because like in Mahmoud's situation where him and his family have to blindly trust people to help them get to Germany that's the bad but the good side of it is in the end of the book when Mahmoud’s family makes it to Germany they get out in a home with an older version of another character in the story and that person is Ruthie from Josefs family she moved back to Germany after world war 2.

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