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In the final third of Fobbit, we start with Gooding experiencing what he thinks to be the base being bombed, which turns out to be a false alarm and was their own howitzers going off. Later, he gets a story about a person who claimed somebody had a bomb, causing mass panic. People were jumping off of bridges to try to get away and many people had died. Further in the story, a massive sandstorm that they call a simoom, hits the FOB, and Gooding’s lungs don’t fare well in the storm, so he goes to get a drink from a “Twee” who filled his bottle with a garden hose, which makes him fall sick. He goes to the aid station to get aid and he is diagnosed with emphysema (damage to the air sacs of the lungs) and is probably also sick from the water. We move on to Abe Shrinkle chilling in the Australian pool talking to the Aussies, when all of a sudden a mortar hits the pool, turning Shrinkle into red mist. Through the eyes of Harkleroad, we figure out that Shrinkle was the 2000th death, and the media cannot know that it was him because he was in the Australian pool slacking off. Harkleroad struggles to come up with something to call the situation and get a report to give to the media, who is calling a lot. Gooding finally breaks, he assesses every detail of the room, then books it for the checkpoint to run away, and as he runs away, a mortar starts to whiz towards him.

 

“‘Sorry, sir.’ You fat fuck, you. ‘I meant no disrespect.’” (Abrams 253) Character, Perspective, Paradox/Juxtaposition 

 

“No one saw it coming, they would all testify later. They heard it, yes, but never saw it. They only witnessed the aftermath: the red jetted spurt erupting from the center of the water- the dead center, you might say- as if the mortar had struck from below, pushing up from the bottom of the pool instead of falling from the sky. By the time the whistle registered on their brains and they realized what that awful sound portended- oh, bloody fuck!- there was no time to react, nothing to shout, only enough time to throw an arm across their eyes, as if that would protect them.” (Abrams 315) Imagery, character, plot, hyperbole. This quote helps understand that Shrinkle was hit by a mortar, without directly stating that he was the one who died, and is a good use of imagery to convey something that happened.

 

“‘I don’t know how you did it, Sar’nt, but you got on the doc’s good side this morning. Good thing, too. You should see him most days. Normally, he just prescribes Motrin and kicks them out the door, no matter what they come in here bitching about.’” (Abrams 304) Plot, understatement, juxtaposition, character

 

“He ran without cease. His legs were hot iron brands and his lungs were breath-harshed sacs near collapse, but he still ran… He hesitated for a second but then tucked his bare head to his chest and continued to sprint toward the guards at the checkpoint who were even now bringing up their rifles and shouting for him to ‘Stop!’ Somewhere to the north, a mortar shrieked across the sky, coming closer, ever closer.” (368-369 Abrams) Imagery, character, plot, understatement, metaphor. This quote helps readers understand what Gooding is going through and helps the reader infer what happens to Gooding after the story ends

 

Overall most of these quotes convey the message that War is Based on luck, and my message changed from the last response because a lot of the events that take place in the story after that point were based on luck. Overall this novel was great, although it started a little slow it still built on characters even when we are switching perspectives all the time and arguably gave a better understanding to each character and I would recommend it to other students.

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Conrad realizes he needs to get help, so he goes to a veteran's hospital. They have him wait three months to have his appointment, just for the doctor to not even listen to him and give him multiple medications. After that he gives up, he is pushing himself away more and more from everyone that loves him and cares about him, and plans on ending his life, until his brother catches him before he can even attempt. His brother says he will not leave his side until he is okay. 

  1. “This time he filled out all the forms. He was sent to the same waiting room, but this time a different woman sat behind the desk.” (Robinson 313) - plot, juxtaposition, character 
  2. “The taste of oil and metal on your tongue, the absolute shape, and feel of the barrel against the roof of your mouth. The great existential question: Would you hear the shot?”(Robinson 320) -plot, understatement, imagery. This shows understatement, Conrad is at the point where he just wants to give up. His wondering about this topic shows just how much of a low he has gotten to.
  3. There was no end to them. He felt claustrophobic at the sight. (Robinson 327)- plot, character,
  4. “This is like being in the middle of a flooding river.I can’t stop it. I can’t get to shore. I can't obey the rules.”(Robinson 346) -point of view, character, simile, imagery. This is an example of Imagery, no matter how hard Conrad tries to suppress his memories and emotions from when he was at the war he can’t. He also tries to fit in back home but is struggling.

 

I think that the author is trying to demonstrate that War leaves long(sometimes forever) lasting effects on soldiers and their families. Conrad's family has tried to reach out to him multiple times with help but he just doesn’t know how to take it. Meanwhile, he is being harsh to them, distancing himself, and is going down a spiral. 

My message about war ended up staying the same. There's a lot of perspective showing up throughout the whole story as well as the plot.

 

I liked how my novel was going back and forth between present time and flashbacks. It was pretty easy to follow and find literary terms, the only down I have about the book is the first half is very hard to get into. I would definitely recommend this book to other students.

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A football game between the 4077th and General Hammond's soldiers was played in Seoul at the end of the book. Duke and Hawkeye's service comes to an end as the book concludes. They did, however, train their replacements before they went.

  “As the ferry left the dock, they leaned over the side, smoking and observing a crowd of Koreans and a Korean band cheering and serenading their departure. Hawkeye threw his cigarette into the swirling, dirty waters below.” (Hooker, 213) Because of the depiction of the sea, this quotation is a good example of Imagery.

  “As Hawkeye finished his explanation, Duke joined the group at the same moment a passing truck backfired. Hawkeye and the Duke hit the floor, simultaneously drawing their .45s and looking around for the enemy. Then, realizing their mistake, they arose, feigning embarrassment.” (Hooker, 212) Imagery. It depicts the aftermath of what they've gone through, and how Duke and Hawkeye are still affected even though they've left the base and are returning home.

I think the overall message is that people cope with trauma in different ways, the most popular way being humor. While Hawkeye, Duke, and Trapper aren’t actually in the war, they’re seeing the effects of it.

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In the third and last section of the book, it starts off with Jimmy trying to kiss Kate. She likes it at first, but soon turns him down because she feels bad for cheating on her boyfriend back home. Jimmy distances himself from her after that, and Kate sends her boyfriend a letter breaking up with him.  Naema’s grandma has a stroke and they try to drive her to the hospital, but the roads around the hospital are completely blocked up. They arrive and the hospital has nearly no supplies and only a few nurses. Naema, having training as a nurse, volunteers to help. Kate confides in Yvette about her sexual assault and Yvette helps her report it, this time to a female sergeant.  The Female sergeant tells the male Sergeant it was originally reported to and he finds out they’re still talking about it. To shut them up, he sends Kate and Yvette on a suicide mission guarding loaded trucks. The truck Yvette is in hits an IED bomb but she gets out unscathed. However, a second set of bombs goes off at the load off for the supplies and kills Yvette. Naema’s grandma dies while she helps injured civilians. Back on guard duty at her tower, Kate shoots a prisoner before fainting and falling out of her tower. She is discharged due to the severity of her injuries and returns home, where she escapes a mental institution and goes to stay with Jimmy who was also recently discharged.

“For one, the shocks are so bad that driving in the desert feels like being dragged over rocks on a cafeteria tray.” (Benedict 241)

Simile

 

“But all I can see are those daytime ghosts, human-shaped dust swirls that loom up in front of me then fall into nothing, leaving my heart hammering, my rifle on lock and load and my head buzzing like a swarm of panicked bees.” (Benedict 242)

Metaphor + Simile

The Metaphor is the ‘daytime ghost’, comparing the dust clouds to ghosts.  and the simile is the comparison between Kates head and a swarm of panicked bees. This fits with the message of war in the story as the trauma of whats been happening to her is slowly getting the better of her, making her paranoid and antsy.

 

“Granny Maryam should have died in her own house, saying her last prayers to Allah, not abandoned in a filthy corner like a poisoned dog.” (Benedict 280)

Simile

Naema compares the way her grandma died to the death of a poisoned dog, just slumped over in the corner. I noticed a lot in the story that the American soldiers liked to refer to Iraqi’s as dogs/other wild creatures, as if to dehumanize them. But we see now that even Naema has taken to doing the same, which fits with what I think the authors message is about war.

“All the rest of that night, I lie on my back, eyes wide open, rifle clasped to my chest. Head exploding with despair.” (Benedict 287)

Hyperbole

 

My message of war hasn’t from the previous response, that War can mess with your mind. As you can see by both of the explained quotes, by the end of the story both characters come out traumatized and far different from the beginning of the story.

 

I liked my novel as a story and it would have been great as a free reading book, however I wouldn’t recommend it for this assignment. It was hard to find good literary terms besides imagery, and most of the ones I did find weren’t strong enough to really be used. But I would recommend it to read in your free time.

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  1. “He made people believe that there was something worth fighting for. That’s powerful.” (Carpenter 203) Plot. This quote helps show how Kennedy gave hope during the cold war. He was put in office at the height of the cold war. He made good and bad decisions but who doesn't do that he gave the people hope.
  2. “Someone covered the bill, ma’am, he says. Thank you, she says.” (Carpenter 258) Plot, imagery. This quote helps understand the plot of the story by the woman's son dying and her finally finding out by getting the letter/bill from the officers. Imagery was used when they described the officer trying to cover up the bill.
  3. “Jason was trained not to trust, but he was also trained to behave.” (Carpenter 205) Character.
  4. “Tanks, Nukes, and mercenaries.” Carpenter 204) Imagery.

I thought that these quotes helped me understand that war is very hard nor just on a soldier but everyone around him as a whole. I think that's what I liked most about this book, how it tied in so many different characters that stayed for a long time and were not just there for a chapter of the story.

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Summary: The last section of the book is more closely on Billy. Specifically, Billy and this girl. While Billy texts her during the last parts of the game he is also faced with a decision. He could go with his buddies back to Iraq, or he could take up his sister's offer to stay and live a lovely life with his girl. He is torn. After the game, Billy gets jumped. Sometime later he decides to go to Iraq. 

QUOTE 1: “Already there so much for the mind to absorb and then the disco lights get going, rows of blue and white strobes between the stage tiers, more strobes trimming the steel-pipe frame and everything flashing all at once, electro-visual spaz-pulse and epileptic overload, retinal scarring, frontal lobes blown to caterpillar fuzz--- This is yr brain on meth!” (Fountain 230)Imagery, Metaphor

QUOTE 2: “ boom boom boom boom… “...it’s just fireworks.” … If there was a prime trigger for PTSD you couldn't do better than this, but lucky for Norm, the crowd, America, the forty-million-plus TV viewing audience, Bravos can deal, oh yes! Pupils dilated, pulse and blood pressure through the roof, limbs trembling with stress-reflex cortisol rush, but it’s cool, it’s good, their shit’s down tight, no Vietnam-vet crackups for Bravo squad!” (Fountain 230) Onomatopoeia, paradox. 

I think this is such a great quote. All that is happening is fireworks. But we visit the mind of Billy and the other soldiers and all of them are on a high, essentially in a complete adrenaline/panic overload. This is a perfect example of normal things for regular Americans being terrifying to army vets. 

QUOTE 3: “They are all business, these show people, as quiet and lethal as sniper teams.” (Fountain 236) Simile.

QUOTE 4: “Halftime sort of skitzed me out.” Dime laughs, at-at-at, a machine-gun rattle high in his throat. “Son, try to look at it this way. It’s just another normal day in America.”... “I don’t even think I know what normal is anymore.” (Fountain 242) Metaphor

The metaphor in this quote mentions machine guns, which is obviously a tie to war. So when Dime says it’s just another normal day in America, it slightly ties into a message about war. The people were entertained by the fireworks and the whole halftime show but it wasn’t too crazy. Billy, on the other hand, is having trouble controlling himself. This helps represent that the people of America are at war, and the rest of America is living life. While their representative soldiers fight for their ability to watch football. The most exciting thing for an American is their favorite team doing something great. They don’t realize and likely never think about the soldiers at the game, and what they went through to be here. They think they’re excited. Try putting yourself in a soldier's shoes. 

Message about war: Those who have never dealt with war will never understand what true excitement and adrenaline feel like. I think onomatopoeia and imagery are a great way to represent and help paint the picture of my message about war. When I think of war I think of blood, fire, and explosions and I hear what it may have sounded like in my head. So when the novel uses those same terms, it's much easier to understand and interpret. 

Reflection: I think this is a really good novel. The plot of the story is not very great, war heroes come back to a football game and talk about making a movie. What’s great about this, though, is that war has done something to these soldiers. Both the soldiers and the people come to the football game but it's experienced differently mainly between people and soldiers but also soldiers and other soldiers. I think it’s such a great representation of inside the minds of soldiers, versus the thoughts and views on war from the outside in. I’ve never been fond of marking up books to use for later, but it's hard not to with this book. It’s easy to read, literary terms are easy to find, and it’s finally a fun book for me. I would highly recommend this book to anyone who struggles with marking up the books or doesn’t do formal. This book felt real to me and made me sort of interested in war, which was never big for me.

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In the last third of my novel, Sara traveled to the hospital to see Jason. On the way she talks with the godfather and finds out that David is alive. When Sara arrives at the hospital, she finds out that Jason died. While trying to heal from the loss of her son, Sara leans on her friends and family for support.

  • “‘War is the ability to die for another person without hesitation. War is the belief in the value of another person’s life above belief in the value of your own” (Carpenter 199). Juxtaposition, imagery, perspective. This quote helped me understand how soldiers mindset works and how they feel about war
  • “...his dad would call home on this day each year and always said he was calling because it was easier to remember than his son’s birthday” (Carpenter 207). 
  • “And the doctor says something that sounds like ‘an hour ago’” (Carpenter 229)
  • “Had her son died in an ‘exciting’ way?” (Carpenter 231). Character, plot, juxtaposition. This quote helps me understand how a mother mind reacts when a child dies in combat

The message is people will never get back what they had before war

The message changed in the last section because we only find out about Jason’s death at the end of the book

I didn’t care for this novel because I found it really boring and hard to understand. It was hard to follow and hard to find literary terms. I would not recommend this book to future students

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In the last part of my book Henry jumps off of the train that is in Milan and he leaves to meet up with Catherine at a hotel in Stresa even though Henry has to stay in the hotel and avoid being seen, he was seen by a hotel barman and the barman was there to warn Henry that the Italian police are planning to arrest him the next morning, so the barman lends them a boat to take them to Switzerland. Meanwhile, Catherine is pregnant and can go into labor at any moment she worries if the kid will get between them and cause problems. Catherine is now in labor for hours, the baby still doesn’t come and she has to have a C- Section. The baby turns out to be dead, strangled in its cord, and then Catherine later dies after the procedure.  

"It is now hard to leave the country but it is in no way impossible."(Hemingway 238) Understatement 

"The war seemed as far away as the football games of someone else's college.”(Hemingway 291) Smilie 

"I thought Catherine was dead. She looked dead. Her face was gray, the part of it that I could see. Down below, under the light, the doctor was sewing up the great long, force-spread, thick-edged wound."(Hemingway 325) Imagery, this quote helped me understand what was happening in the book because of the detail it was giving me about what she looked like and knowing what stage she was at, and if she was about to die or not. 

 “It was like saying goodbye to a statue.” (Hemingway 332) Simile and Imagery, this is a simile because he is comparing his dead wife to a statue and this helps me understand what is happening in the book because I know how he said goodbye to her and helped me picture it better because he used a comparison.

The message I got from the end of this book was that love is stronger than war. I got this because at the beginning of the book Henry never actually liked/loved Catherine, he only "liked" her because she was lonely. But towards the end, he started to actually like Catherine and would do anything to be with her at the moment. He was originally there for war but then he ended up being there because of Catherine and she would do anything for him too. 

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Reflection: I liked the book that I had and I liked that it was about war but about a love story too and it kept me reading it because I was wondering what was going to happen next. It was very easy to follow because there aren't that many characters and they all have something to do with each other so it makes it easier to follow, it was also pretty easy finding literary terms I had a harder time with it towards the end but it ended up okay. I would recommend this book to future students doing this same assignment because it was easy to follow and understand, easy to find literary terms, and the characters and their actions keep you hooked so you want to go back and read it although it is a little boring, in the beginning, it does get better. 

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In the last third of ‘Slaughterhouse-five,’ Billy meets Kilgore Trout, his favorite author, and they become friends. Billy travels back to Dresden again, and his wife Valencia dies while driving to the hospital Billy was in, because of a plane crash. In the hospital, Billy doesn’t speak for a long while, and is in a bed next to a man named Bertram Copeland. Eventually he is in a bookstore and looks at Trouts novels. And the book ends with repetition, imagery, and homage to the beginning of the book.

“Dresden was like the moon now, nothing but minerals. The stones were hot. Everybody else in the neighborhood was dead. So it goes.” (Vonnegut 178)

SIMILE - UNDERSTATEMENT

This is a quote of understatement. The phrase “so it goes,” showing up multiple times in the novel. With a quote that insinuates and understates death, is followed by this quote. This shows how death is often brushed of in life, life moves on and you can’t stick to one thing forever.

“Rumford was thinking in a military manner: that an inconvenient person, one whose death he wished for very much, for practical reasons, was suffering from a repulsive disease.” (Vonnegut 192)

CHARACTER - PLOT

“...they at once scolded him in English for the condition of the horses.. When Billy saw the condition of his means of transportation, he burst into tears. He hadn't cried about anything else in the war.” (Vonnegut 197)

I think this quote shows a lot about Billy as a character. Stating how he had never cried about anything in the war, but seeing the horrid state of an animal, is what breaks him. I think this is a reference to PTSD, which a lot of veterans go through.

PERSPECTIVE - IMAGERY - CHARACTER - PLOT

“The trees were leafing out. There was nothing going on out there, no traffic of any kind. There was only one vehicle, an abandoned wagon drawn by two horses. The wagon was green and coffin shaped. Birds were talking. One bird said to Billy Pilgrim, “Poo-tee-weet?’” (Vonnegut 215)

IMAGERY - ONOMATOPOEIA 

The message in this novel I think is, War and its impact never leave. This idea is pretty different from the other two, I feel like they are similar, but not the same. 

Overall, I liked this novel more than I thought I would. And once I got into the meat of it, it was surprisingly easy to follow. The main character is interesting and I thought it was easy find literary terms. I would recommend the book to some students, but not all.

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My book is called Sparta by Roxana Robinson."War and it's impact will never leave" my novel shares a very similar idea throughout the story. The ending follows Conrad months to years after his attempted suicide and he the name of the book comes into play, he thinks about Sparta and why it failed, "Sparta made young boys into warriors; it was left to the warriors to restore themselves to men" (Robinson 383)

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By this time of the book the halftime show where bravo goes onto stage and has some bad experiences on the stage with the fireworks and stuff bringing back flashbacks and causing some episodes. At this point, it is very clear Billy is suffering from mental health with the war. Billy agrees to meet with his sister after the show. Billy has established a relationship with the cheerleader and wants to stay in touch after the game. When Bravo leaves the limo Billy sees his sister he is not gonna leave bravo he is gonna go with his group. 

“I don't care if you're talking to the president, you can't stand here.” (223 fountains) 

This demonstrates imagery and plot

“Look, I have no F****** idea where you're supposed to go, but you can't stay here.” (fountain 243) Imagery 

“Well, right there at the end, like you were looking up in the sky. Like you were praying” (fountain 252) imagery this demonstrates imagery when reading I can see in my head how this is happening. Billy after the show is just standing there and having what I thought was a flashback. 

“No no way I can't accept that you can't go back to that place” (fountain 254) this is perspective 

I can use this because this is his sister's perspective on whether billy should go on tour again but in Billy's perspective, he can't leave his team

-Message

My first impression of war in this book was war is a dampening on a person's body physically but towards the end, it's also mentally dampening. 

I loved the plot of the novel and the idea, but what I did not enjoy in the book is the sudden transitions with Billy's flashbacks several times I had to go back and read to understand where it started. For future students this book requires a lot of focus don't use a audiobook also use the book so you can read and go back at free will 

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During this part of the novel, we see Jake and Cohn's jealous side appear more. Brett ends up getting sick and she and Mike stay in San Sebastian regardless of Brett being sick Bill and Jake go on their fishing trip without Cohn because he wants to stay for Brett. Jake is very jealous of Cohn. They talk about war experiences and then Bill interrupts Jake and asks if he ever loved Brett and he said, “for a hell of a long time.” After not hearing anything from the other 3 Bill and Jake receive a letter from Mike saying Brett passed out on the train but she is better. Preparing for the Fiesta Jake hears Cohn and Brett laughing as they walk to their rooms. Jake soon realizes that he is suffering more in this friendship, he is so jealous that he doesn’t mind when Mike insults Cohn. The Fiesta begins and they all go to watch a bullfight and instantly Brett becomes fascinated with Romero. He dazzles her which makes Cohn jealous because he likes her. Mike Campbell cracks a few jokes about how Brett is falling in love. 

Character: Jake finds out that Brett and Cohn were in San Sebastian together, he is not thrilled about this. This affects the friend group more than Brett knows. "Brett look at me. 'I say,' she said, 'is Robert Cohn going on this trip?' 'Yes. WHy?' 'Don't you think it will be a bit rough on him?' 'Why should it?' 'Who do you think I went down to San Sebastian with?' 'Congratulations,' I said." This changes how Brett is going to act towards Cohn. (Hemingway 89)

Perspective: We get Bill's perspective and how he feels about war + his thoughts, "Listen. You're a hell of a good guy, and I'm fonder of you than anybody on earth. I couldn't tell you that in New York. It'd mean I was a faggot. That was what the Civil War was about. Abraham Lincoln was a faggot. He was in love with General Grant. So was Jefferson Davis...Sex explains it all." (Hemingway 121) The author's use of perspective here really helped a reader to understand how Jake's friends feel about him. Not only does Bill express a moment with Jake but they talk about the war, as readers, this was important because we haven't seen a conversation. Only jokes about the war or a quick rebutle. 

Simile: After watching the Bullfighting Brett pretty much was falling in love with Romero one of the bullfights, which made Robert Cohn very uneasy. "These bull-fights are hell on one," Brett said. "I'm limp as a rag." (Hemingway 173)

Imagery: It is important for the author to give the readers visuals to help grasp small details that help the story flow. For instance, the trip they all took to Spain. "There were long brown mountains and a few pines and far-off forests of beech-trees on some of the mountainsides. The road went along the summit of the Col and then dropped down, and the driver had to honk, slow up, and turn out to avoid running into two donkeys that were sleeping in the road. We came down out of the mountains and through an oak forest, and there were white cattle grazing in the forest. Down below there were grassy plains and clear streams, and then we crossed a stream and went through a gloomy little village, and started to climb again. We climbed up and up and crossed another high Col and turned along with it, and the road ran down to the right, and we saw a whole new range of mountains off to the south, all brown and baked-looking and furrowed in strange shapes." (Hemingway 99)

My book seems to emphasize that everyone's perspective about war is different. Like Bill and Jake for example. Bill thinks strongly about homosexuality and says it's from the war, while Jake is trying to find a way to express how he feels, leaving us guessing his true thoughts.

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In the last portion of the book, the bravos are quickly thrown into the halftime show. Billy is ordered to stand in the middle of this stage, fireworks begin to go off and send the bravos into a mini PTSD episode. After this, they watch the other half of the game and talk about the movie deal. When they're on their way to leave they get jumped by the stage crew and shots are fired, billy gets beat but is saved by major mack. After Billy says bye to Faison they leave all in a hummer limo.

 

“Dime screeches…’ like a dog returning to his vomit, here he is” simile, character, imagery (fountain 299) 

 

“Billy is thinking if Faison hasn’t shown by the time bravo is ready to leave, he’ll just bail, go AWOL…” character, plot, understatement, pov (Fountain 301) This quote is really shows how much he loves her. He wasn't willing to bail for his family but he’ll do it right there if he cant see Faison just one more time.

 

“How about if you come stay with me?’...’ I've never felt this way about anyone’...’ me neither” character, plot, pov, (Fountain 305)

 

“Girl, i’d just about run away with you’...She lifts her head…her confusion decides…’ we don't have to run anywhere” character, plot, juxtaposition (Fountain 305) I like this quote because it’s adding more feeling because obviously, Faison doesn't know the severity of the situation compared to billy. She thinks they’ll just miss each other, but Billy knows this could be the last time they ever see each other again.

 

The ending portion really emphasizes that war can tear you apart. It shows this through plot and character throughout the book, billy doesnt want to go back at the chance that he’ll lose Faison.

 

In the last portion I focused on juxtaposition, this changed because I believe in this part it really showed a lot of billy and faisons relationship and just wanting to be together.

 

Overall I really liked this book, pretty easy to follow and tells a super good story. The lit terms weren't too bad and I would recommend this book.

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In the last third of the novel, Bravo finally experiences the big halftime show. They stand on a huge platform while Destiny's Child performs in front of them, as well as other various acts going on around them. After being in the halftime show getting pelted by sleet, the Bravos are faced with the reality of their movie, and the fact that they would be getting a loss less money than they were originally told. Billy is a first hand witness to Sargent Dime telling Norm exactly what he thinks of it, and where he can shove his new deal. So Billy trades contact information with his cheerleader, Faison, and the Bravos make their way out of the stadium to end their eventful day. 

 

“Dime laughs, at-at-at, a machine-gun rattle high in his throat. ‘Son, try to look at it this way. It's just another normal day in America.’ Billy's heart melts a little at that son.” (Fountain 242) Metaphor, Onomatopoeia, Character, Perspective. This quote says a lot about Billy’s character and family dynamic. Billy’s father was never a warm and caring person, and now he doesn’t even talk to Billy or express any kind of love or pride he has for his son. So when Billy’s Sargent calls him son, it's clear that Billy looks up to Dime a lot and his praise or respect means the absolute world to Billy. 

 

“‘He’s fine. He’s happy. He's like a cockroach, you can't kill him!’” (Fountain 261) Simile, Perspective.

 

“‘Billy,’ he calls, holding out a small plastic bottle. ‘I got your Advil.’” (Fountain 287) Plot, Imagery, Perspective. This quote really stood out to me when I read it because Billy wanting some Advil has been a recurring concept throughout the novel, and him finally getting it is like the climax of Billy's day, and things are finally starting to settle down and become sturdy. Everything has been so unknown and chaotic, and this small thing that Billy has been seeking since the beginning is like a ray of sunlight and everything sort of falls into place after that. 

 

“‘Take us someplace safe. Take us back to the war.’” (Fountain 307) Paradox, Understatement, Perspective. 

 

The message that comes to my mind is that after being in a war, war  almost becomes more familiar than the real world. After having a certain way of doing things so seriously, it seems like the soldiers are a little lost for what to do. 

How I perceived the message of war changed from how I saw it in the last section because I said last time that soldiers' emotions go up and down for different things, but this time I thought the message was more of an overview of how soldiers are reacting to being back in ‘normal’ life. 

I enjoyed the book quite a bit, it had a lot of good moments, some sweet and some funny. I might recommend it to someone who likes to read, because it wasn’t super hard to follow but I can see where it might be where the book is one entire day stretched over 300 pages.

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Summary : in the last third of the book, joe is learning from his dreams now as he slowly loses purpose and starts to remember a time in the war when he wishes he could have done something to help them. he finds ways to communicate with people, only for them not to care because he is a tested subject. although he can't move or really do anything he understands that this is his life now after attempting suicide and failing very badly.

¨I was hoping he would knock down a waiter,¨ Mike said,¨and get arrested. Id like to see Mr. Robert Cohn in jail¨( 195 Hemingway) 

“Billy, all those mofos ever do is lie. You think if they halfway told the truth we’d even be in a f------ war? You know what I think, I think we don’t deserve to have you guys die for us. No country that lets its leader lie like that deserves a single soldier to die for it”. (Fountain 255)

“ ‘War is the ability to die for another person without hesitation. War is the belief in the value of another person’s life above belief in the value of your own.’ ” (Carpenter 199) 

“‘Baby, we don’t have to run anywhere. You just get yourself home and we’ll be fine right here.’ He doesn’t resist, because there’s just so much to lose. He will forgo the greater risk in favor of the lesser, even though the lesser---and isn’t funny, funny!---is the one that might get him killed.”’ (Fountain 305).

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“His only other option… was a Presbyterian chaplain who, due to overstaffing, was a bungle back at Fort Stewart… Duret found himself wondering if that Presbyterian chaplain wouldn't have been such a  bad idea after all.” (Abrams 255-259) This is an understatement, Duret at first was super against being inside a Presbyterian chaplain but after he met the new guy Fledger he downplayed his reaction and changed his mind. “He was angry at the fat fobbits who had nothing better to do in this war than waste half an hour standing around waiting for a rinky-dink little fitness center to open.” (Abrams 267-268) the literary term of character shows us a thing about Shrinkle. He can’t stand fobbits. He has to deal with all the suicide bombers while they get to just sit at their desks and report out. He finds them useless, keeping the story moving. “I’m your worst nightmare, Iraq.” (Abrams 287) This is hyperbole. Shrinkle is overly exaggerating that he is was Iraq is most scared of. “He swallowed and pushed away the suicide bombers head with its singed, bulging eyes.” (Abrams 299) And finally, imagery is shown here by being overly descriptive about this person's eye that we might even envision it ourselves.

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Billy and the Bravos perform at halftime and get into a fight with some “roadies” after. They try to work out a deal with Norm for a movie about the Bravos, but Norm is offering too little money. The Bravos leave Norm and go back to their seats and continue to watch the game. When they leave the game and head to their vehicles, Billy gets jumped by the roadies again. Major Mac then picks up the gun on the ground and saves Billy.

“I don’t give a shit if you guys are gay or bi or tranny or screw lesbian monkeys for all I care, you’re studs in my book. You guys are real American heroes.” (Fountain 296) -Perspective, Character -- This shows perspective because this fan doesn’t realize how disrespectful he is towards the Bravos. It shows both the fan’s character and Crack’s character because he resorts to violence.

“But fitty-five hundred don’t cut it. And Bravo speaks as one on this.” (Fountain 283) -Character, Perspective -- This shows character because the brotherhood between the Bravos is what builds their character. It shows the perspective of Norm trying to screw over people he makes deals with and from their point of view. 

“”I think they’re going to make you do the deal.” He looks at them. “Can they even do that?”” (Fountain 284) - Character, Plot

“He scoops up the beretta, checks the safety, and chambers a round while holding the weapon down and away from his body, then with the elegance that comes of many hours of practice, he raises his arm and fires straight overhead, BAM.” (Fountain 302) -Plot, Onomatopoeia

I think a big message about war this book told was how you can’t really understand what war is like unless you have been there. This was shown many times throughout the book when civilians were sometimes disrespectful or supportive of something they in reality knew little about. I felt this way throughout the whole book. Another example of a factor that didn’t change throughout the book was the bond between the soldiers which was shown through character. I liked this novel because it showed an interesting perspective that not a lot of people understand or realize.

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The third part of slaughterhouse-five was about Billy talking about how he got sent to Dresden 2 days before the bombing. After the bombing, he described Dresden as the moon, saying that it was full of craters and lifeless. In his current time, he described how he survived his plane crash. Also, he was talking about how after the war how he was sent back to America to be with his daughter.

“Billy told her what happened to the buildings that used to form cliffs around the stockyard. They had collapsed. Their wood had been consumed, and their stones had crashed down, they had tumbled against each other until they locked at last in low and graceful curves” (Vonnegut 179) This is a good example of imagery because he is describing how wood and stone had crashed and burned.

“We were going to survive, were going to have to climb over the curve aftercare on the face of the moon.” (Vonnegut 180) This is a good use of Hyperbole because he is using the moon as an analogy to describe the craters around Dresden.

“The size of Robin’s eggs.” (Vonnegut 195) This is an example of a metaphor because he compares his bullets to Robin's eggs.

“The Americans had treated their form of transportation as though it were more sensitive than six-cylinder Chevrolet” This is an example of another example of metaphor because he says that an engine in a chevy is sensitive, which shows how sensitive the equipment is.

I enjoyed reading this book, I loved it when it was going back into Billy’s memory, and then back into the present. I think that the message overall is that War affects one's mental state, showing how Billy just kept falling apart over time.

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In the last section of my book, Jake and Bill get onto a crowded bus to rural town of Burgete, the bus is also filled with peasants. They went for their fishing trip which was peaceful, calm and relaxing. The ending of the book was filled with lots of events. While they were away Jake got a letter from Mike saying that Brett had fainted on a train. 

"I say. Really you don't know how much it means. I've not had much fun since the war." (Hemingway 134) The literary term for this quote is Character development. In this quote he's stating that probably because of the war he hasn't be able to have much fun. 

"....Nobody that ever left their own country ever wrote anything worth printing. Not even in the newspapers." (Hemingway 120) This quote is a Paradox. 

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” (Hemingway 141) Second person point of you and first person point of view. In this quote Bill is asking Mike how he became bankrupt and Mike says Gradually which means he lost his money over time and then suddenly which maybe he made a huge person over something happened to make him lose his money. 

“These bull-fights are hell on one,” Brett said. “I’m as limp as a rag.” (Hemingway 173) This quote is a simile. 

 

Through the last part of my book I believe that how war impacted others is that it prevented some people from going back to everyday life and was hard for some to have a good time with friends or family. 

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In this section is when Billy leaves. His sister tries to find a way to get him to stay but he denies and goes anyway. They also decided to not have the movie done because they aren’t getting much money from it. He doesn’t want to leave but figures he needs to and he ends up having a very hard goodbye with the cheerleader. 

“Oh Jesus. Oh Shroom. What would Shroom do? What would he do if he was Billy, that is the better question, one that turns on the most intimate, pressing issues of soul, self-definition, one’s ultimate purpose in life.” (Fountain 296) Perspective+Plot. This is a decision that Billy has to make that will forever affect him. He brings up Shroom because he knows he would do the right thing and he just needs help and wants to know what that is. Since Shroom is no longer with him, he has to decide what he thinks Shroom would do and try to pick the right option out of staying with his love he met, or going back into war. 

“Sometimes I wonder if the whole thing might be a mistake. I mean, I think we ought to be fighting terrorism and everything, but it’s like, okay, we got rid of saddam, maybe we should just bring our guys home and let Iraqis work it out for themselves.” (Fountain 246) Perspective, paradox. This quote shows more about how others think about how the war is rather than about what's going on inside of it because they can’t really understand what is happening inside of it. 

“Jaaaaaaaa sssssshhhhhhh! Dah Joshster.” (Fountain 251) Onomatopoeia 

“I believe in your story,” Norm tells the Bravos, with only the briefest glance at the field, “and I believe in the good it can do for our country. It’s a story of courage, hope, optimism, love of freedom, all the convictions that motivated you young men to do what you did…” (Fountain 275) Perspective 

War changes you no matter how hard you try to not let it affect you. My message hasn’t changed much because no matter the section of the book, people were being affected in different ways after coming out of war. Billy had many different situations where war had affected him greatly. In my opinion on the book, it was very sad and not a fun read. It definitely has its moments where things might have looked up but then they didn’t. It wasn’t hard to follow though, just a sad story.  

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 Kate and her friend try to report the assault but the guy is friends with all the higher-up people they got sent on a delivery trip and go bombed while checking email. her friend sadly passed she was going into a “robot soldier” when she shot a prisoner in the no square fell off a tower and got sent home due to injury and can no longer enlist. When she gets back she's depressed jumpy and cant live with what she did to the point she can't even look at her parents or ex-boyfriend.

  “She a Halloween skeleton dangling off a porch only wrapped ina sack. separated from her skin. Bones and flesh but no soul” (benedict 261) analogy this quote helps explain the feeling of not being yourself coming home from war and the actual effect of just feeling empty it gives a good perspective on the effects war has on the soldiers themselves. 

“But after the suffering, I saw at the hospital, I am beyond revolution and pity. I am beyond any feeling at all.”(benedict 306) plot 

“The tents look like animals crouching in the darkening shadows, their sides heaving in the wind like they're breathing.”(benedict 220) imagery analogy    

“A few blood-splattered nurses are trying to restore order, but the place is more like an overcrowded refugee camp than a house of healing.”(benedict 250) simile this quote helps you understand and imagine the effect the war had not only on a soldiers pov but from a civilians pov.

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